Rhythm and Smooth at Blackpool 2017

#7
Today on DSI TV, Sammy Stopford announced,

"[W]e're going to introduce the first ever Blackpool British Open Professional Smooth Championship, and that will also be followed by the Blackpool British Open Rhythm Championship..."

There has been no word on whether there won't be Amateur (Youth, Adult, or Senior), Amateur Rising Star, or Professional Rising Star.
 

GJB

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#9
How will they judge these divisions I wonder? The International styles have accepted technique books, guides, exams, etc. What about American styles? Is there even an agreed upon technique for Rhythm?
 

Becca

Active Member
#10
How many extra days are they adding to the festival?
They shouldn't need to add any days to the festival - there is so much empty space throughout the ten days as it is, and way too many really long breaks in between all the rounds. There is also plenty of time when the ballroom is closed to the public between the early morning qualifiers and the afternoon first rounds. It makes sense to fill all those gaps with something. Blackpool needs it!
 

tangotime

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#11
How will they judge these divisions I wonder? The International styles have accepted technique books, guides, exams, etc.


What about American styles? Is there even an agreed upon technique for Rhythm?
So.. do you think after 90 YEARS, they may have come up with some techn. ? :rolleyes: .

To my mind, it's more about WHO is going to Judge the events..
 

GJB

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#12
So.. do you think after 90 YEARS, they may have come up with some techn. ? :rolleyes: .
Of course I think they have come up with some technique. Is it well known outside the U.S.? And is there a consensus?


To my mind, it's more about WHO is going to Judge the events..
Yes, that was part of what I was getting at... who outside the U.S. is trained to judge these styles?
 

tangotime

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#13
Of course I think they have come up with some technique. Is it well known outside the U.S.? And is there a consensus?


Yes, that was part of what I was getting at... who outside the U.S. is trained to judge these styles?
I for one, am. And there are a few Intern. style judges, who have spent many years,( some of whom are English ) living, working and training Amats and Pros.
 

Larinda McRaven

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Staff member
#14
There are many US pros, who are already World Class Adjudicators, who have come from American Style. Anyone of them can be invited. Bob and Julia, Eddie, Forest and Suzy, Michael and Toni, David and Olga and Theresa, Rosendo, Kloss, Kosovich, Panatellos, Not to mention people like Gary and Diana, Dustin, and Charlotte who may not have competed in it but are training the everyone...

These people already have the necessary WCD qualifications. And if they aren't already judging overseas it is because there have been no American style events to judge outside of North America.

This has been in the works for a long time from the McDonald family. They haven't been setting up the system only to have a crappy panel. I am sure the judges oveseas can still tell quality from crap. Although it will be fun to watch the results shift, due to judges that don't immediately know the average placements of the couples attending.
 
#17
Looking forward to who will be judging. :)
A lot of the panel's already familiar with the style - Shirley Ballas is a pretty big fan of Smooth, at least based on her comments during a workshop I attended.

They shouldn't need to add any days to the festival - there is so much empty space throughout the ten days as it is, and way too many really long breaks in between all the rounds. There is also plenty of time when the ballroom is closed to the public between the early morning qualifiers and the afternoon first rounds. It makes sense to fill all those gaps with something. Blackpool needs it!
Also, they could fill some of the required 25-minute gaps between rounds with rounds of another style, at least in the short-term while the smooth and rhythm events aren't drawing giant fields (I'd guess no more than maybe a round of 48 next year for Smooth, 24 for Rhythm). Yesterday evening had the single ballroom formation team, but otherwise there was nearly a half-hour of downtime between each round of the open pro latin. It left time for some cool interviews (always love hearing Bryan and Carmen talk shop) but there was still a ton of dead time (even after the 5 minutes needed to sweep up all the feathers and rhinestones).
 
#18
There are many US pros, who are already World Class Adjudicators, who have come from American Style. Anyone of them can be invited. Bob and Julia, Eddie, Forest and Suzy, Michael and Toni, David and Olga and Theresa, Rosendo, Kloss, Kosovich, Panatellos, Not to mention people like Gary and Diana, Dustin, and Charlotte who may not have competed in it but are training the everyone...

These people already have the necessary WCD qualifications. And if they aren't already judging overseas it is because there have been no American style events to judge outside of North America.

This has been in the works for a long time from the McDonald family. They haven't been setting up the system only to have a crappy panel. I am sure the judges oveseas can still tell quality from crap. Although it will be fun to watch the results shift, due to judges that don't immediately know the average placements of the couples attending.
Or even the judges who are willing to say "screw the consensus, I'm marking what *I* think is good dancing." There was an English amateur couple that jumped from the quarters to the finals this year in Latin (blanking on the guy's name, her name was Zia).
 

JudeMorrigan

Well-Known Member
#19
The prices are about what I'd expect... about 65 USD per entry and almost 300 per championship. Some chain studios are more expensive.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not surprised. And goodness knows that travel costs will be the bigger difference between it and an major US-based comp.

I have to say. I turn 40 next year and had been serious considering seeing if I could swing USDC in celebration. This may just be another option. :D
 

MaggieMoves

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#20
Dance-forums group meet? :cool:

Maybe I'll make up my mind about a Latin dress by then.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not surprised. And goodness knows that travel costs will be the bigger difference between it and an major US-based comp.

I have to say. I turn 40 next year and had been serious considering seeing if I could swing USDC in celebration. This may just be another option. :D
 

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