Salsa vs. swing

#1
Hello,
I'm curious as to how many people dance or have dance both salsa and swing. If you've danced both, how well do you think the lead/follow technique translates between the two dances? Are they the same or different?
S.
 

tangotime

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#2
Hello,
I'm curious as to how many people dance or have dance both salsa and swing. If you've danced both, how well do you think the lead/follow technique translates between the two dances? Are they the same or different?
S.
Some similarities, and, depends upon type of Salsa and "Swing "..
 

tangotime

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#4
Could you elaborate? what's similar and between which types?

WCS is more related to, for ex .LA, NY And C.B. ECS Which is more circular, has more in common with some Cuban styles .

There are variations which are common to both in structure, but ,
"style " may change. Footwork, is by and large. the same..

The musical difference ( accents ) are one of the major differences, even among the salsa styles.
Some being danced on (up beat ) and some on the down. like swing .

Salsa, draws heavily on the swing genre for many of its figures..
 
#5
right, but I was asking specifically about lead and follow technique and practices. I would like to know if you think leading and following is essentially the same in both or if there are differences in how that communication actually happens.
 

Steve Pastor

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#6
I only had 3 months of salsa lessons, and have been doing "swing" for many years. My take on it is that leading is pretty much the same between the two dances. Any differences would come from different patterns used.
Hmmmm Maybe I'll try a cross body lead in WCS next Saturday.
 

tangotime

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#7
right, but I was asking specifically about lead and follow technique and practices. I would like to know if you think leading and following is essentially the same in both or if there are differences in how that communication actually happens.
Lead and follow, is essentially the same . Some of the techn. is different, but, attempting to compare 2 dances that have a totally different "Hold ", is not comparable . One should compare like with like, i.e. Salsa to B.R. Cha cha ,where the frame/hold, for one ex, is completely different .
 

tangotime

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#8
I only had 3 months of salsa lessons, and have been doing "swing" for many years. My take on it is that leading is pretty much the same between the two dances. Any differences would come from different patterns used.
Hmmmm Maybe I'll try a cross body lead in WCS next Saturday.
Its danced virtually, the same as a Side pass .
 
#9
I've done a few of the Latin dances such as salsa (on1),bachata, merengue and rumba. I find the holds, turns, leads quite similar but it's just the footwork and count that differ.

I've taken maybe 4-5 classes of East coast swing, and I find the throwout and underarm turn pretty similar to bachata.
 
#10
Swing may have a slight resemblance to linear salsa as the female already has a slight idea of the spot she'll end up. However in Cuban salsa this would be less as there is a need for the leader to be more specific in the direction for each step of the follower especially during long Cuban patterns that can very easily have no cross body lead and being circular the entrance and exit of the cross body can be at any angle compared to the others that typical form 180 degrees.
 

tangotime

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#11
Swing may have a slight resemblance to linear salsa as the female already has a slight idea of the spot she'll end up. However in Cuban salsa this would be less as there is a need for the leader to be more specific in the direction for each step of the follower especially during long Cuban patterns that can very easily have no cross body lead and being circular the entrance and exit of the cross body can be at any angle compared to the others that typical form 180 degrees.

There is no CB in Cuban.. its a Dile que no .Similar to a CB, but much more confined.. The CB in other styles of salsa, is near identical .

As to linear, there are many variations, that are ex Swing ( E and WCS ) .

The noticable techniques that change, are primarily Hold/ Frame and Poise. Foot positions sometimes vary slightly, and in Casino, Heel leads are the norm( and also may be seen in Son ).

L.A style, has a more defined slot, like WCS .

The biggest difference, is in timing, Breaks are common, on 1,2 and 3, depending upon style and location .
 

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