Shines

Do you like shines?

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  • All the time!

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  • Occassionally

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  • What are they?

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    87

Sagitta

Well-Known Member
#2
Shines. I love shiny things. When anything shines my eyes glitter, I'm mesmerized, drawn to them. Wait!! :? This is about salsa!!

I like salsa shines too. I do them if the music calls for it and if my partner can do it. There are many who are uncomfortable doing shines, so I kind of hold myself back.
 
#3
Sagitta said:
Shines. I love shiny things. When anything shines my eyes glitter, I'm mesmerized, drawn to them. Wait!! :? This is about salsa!!

I like salsa shines too. I do them if the music calls for it and if my partner can do it. There are many who are uncomfortable doing shines, so I kind of hold myself back.
:lol: :lol: :lol: *YES!* Another person who loves Shiny things! *grins* Sagitta, you're a wonderful person! :friend: :bouncy:

I've never done a Shine in my life, honestly; but I know I'll have fun with them once I can! I've seen a shine done before, and it was utterly amazing!

...But, what *exactly* does a Shine entail? Is it merely doing certain moves from Salsa by one's self, or are there specific "only-for-Shines" moves that one learns?

Sakura Kitty :kitty:
 

youngsta

Active Member
#6
Love them, do them a lot especially if my partner enjoys them. You can be very, very playful with shines. And the connection is still there, it's all about giving and receiving with the eyes.
 

Sagitta

Well-Known Member
#10
The thread called "Building a Shine Repertoire" in my above post has links to a couple shines, so you have a place to start Sakura Kitty, don_svendo...
 
#11
Sagitta said:
The thread called "Building a Shine Repertoire" in my above post has links to a couple shines, so you have a place to start Sakura Kitty, don_svendo...
Check 'em out, DS! I did, and they're great! :D Thanks Sagitta-kun!

Sakura Kitty :kitty:
 
#13
Sakura said:
Sagitta said:
The thread called "Building a Shine Repertoire" in my above post has links to a couple shines, so you have a place to start Sakura Kitty, don_svendo...
Check 'em out, DS! I did, and they're great! :D Thanks Sagitta-kun!
Yeah, it's already in my bookmarks... I've tried out a few before the bathroom mirror too... :oops: :lol:
 

MacMoto

Active Member
#14
Some songs always get me in the mood for shines for some reason, but usually I'm not a big fan. All I do is copy what the leader does or do some basic variations with body movement type stuff and hope the leader picks up that I'm not comfortable...
I'm still in the process of building a basic repartoire of shines. I seem to forget most of what I have practised once I'm on the dancefloor. :oops:
 
#15
MacMoto said:
I'm still in the process of building a basic repartoire of shines. I seem to forget most of what I have practised once I'm on the dancefloor. :oops:
Awww! Don't worry, you'll remember it all someday, I'm sure of it! Just keep trying, and I'm sure you'll do great! :D :friend:
 

Sagitta

Well-Known Member
#17
Okay. Since we are on this topic I feel that doing shines involves a different sort of interaction then dancing connected. The follower does follow the music and leader, but does not imitate him. For instance, follower does body and hand styling in place while the leader responds to this with some in place dancing and turns, follower does a turn, followed by leader doing a double turn, connecting and doing partner dancing. Here the follower is not imitating what the leader does, but the dancing of both is a result of what the other partner is doing and music. There are times in shines where one imitates the other, but that should not be the over-riding theme. And note that the leader can respond to what the follower does, and it is not always the other way around, as seems to eb the case for dancing connected. This is my shine philosophy and what I've observed in my limited sphere from advanced dancers. :)
 
#18
Sagitta said:
And note that the leader can respond to what the follower does,
What do you call that step... side step or Cuban step, whatever it is....,
I think that step has a magical character...
No matter what I am doing, once the follower starts doing that step, I always find myself doing the same. :lol:
 

Sagitta

Well-Known Member
#19
You make little of my sage advice my friend! :(

You ask for the magical step that makes you or her do exactly what the other is doing? Lack of confidence? :wink: :)

If I start a Suzy Q a follower often joins. You know what I do? On the second measure, (meaning I moved to the right on the first measure with my left foot in front of my right, while dancing on1), I do a slide by right foot in place as a launching step (quick), with a big step using my right foot at a angle of about 30 degrees anti-clockwise (quick), and then right foot meets and makes contact with left resulting in left foot leaving the ground (slow), [Follower probably is meeting you here as I'm pretty sure she would stillbe doing Suzy Q] followed by left foot cross (quick), right foot back (quick), left foot together with right. [By now whether or not follower is doing Suzy Q or has stopped you can put some distance between ecah other.] This combo usually works well as by the end the follower has stopped doing Suzy Q. It does not look as if she was just copying me, but rather that we are responding to each other.

Another example are front crosses, where I can easily splice in a turn, changing the way I do the crosses from the first quick to the slow, or the other way around.
 
#20
Sagitta said:
You make little of my sage advice my friend! :(
No! By any means... that was NOT my intention. Sorry if I sounded that way. :cry:

You ask for the magical step that makes you or her do exactly what the other is doing? Lack of confidence? :wink: :)
1st question, no. 2nd question, always YES. Since the day I started dancing, there has been always lack of confidence in every aspect of my dancing; not just about shines. :cry: :cry:

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To be honest, when MacMoto said, "All I do is copy what the leader does or .....," I didn't picture her literally "copy"ing what the leader does. Even if that was what she meant, I still wouldn't have any problem with that; on the contrary, as I said in my post, I would still appreciate it, because by doing that, the follower lets me know that she is still paying attention to me.

And I always try to let the follower know that I am still paying attention to her when we are in "shine" mode. Most of the time, by way of eye contact, sometimes, by doing the same type of step that she is doing, other times, by responding to her the way you have just described ------
For instance, follower does body and hand styling in place while the leader responds to this with some in place dancing and turns, follower does a turn, followed by leader doing a double turn, connecting and doing partner dancing.
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Overall, I agree with your shine philosophy, but mine may be a bit different --- as long as we know we are still paying attention to each other, ANYTHING GOES.

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Going back to "lack of confidence," when the follower was totally into herself, not even gave me a glance during her entire "show" over more than 20 measures---- I used to get :x , and decide to out-shine her. But that was a long time ago. Now that I am a little more secure than I was in those days, I just go "You go girl! Yeah!" :wink:
 

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