Check this one out. Looks like the two-dance tradition is different in different places. This camp was in Moscow. The couple does a boogie woogie followed by (I think) WCS? And btw, this guy Ben Morris is awesome!
haha yes. I think the two dance thing is actually you needing to do a slower one and a faster one and they can choose between a few genres, but they're messing about in that one
Very fun to watch. They have done crossover jack and jills as well as places like the Boston Tea Party event where the jack and jill are one lindy hopper and a westie put together and the two songs are one lindy song and one WCS one.
Ben Morris and Naomi Uyama, she's an awesome lindy hopper
Here's one where the lead is a lindy hopper and the follow a westie.
My admiration for Ben Morris grows. In all the videos I've viewed so far, Nina Gilkenson is the first of the follows to look equally comfortable with both styles. This guy just listens to the music for a minute, then dances whatever they throw at him with what appears to be equal ease. Wow.
If I remember correctly Ben Morris started out in lindy and did that for a while before branching out into WCS and he's carried on teaching/competing in both, although more in WCS now I think. Anyway not surprising he's awesome in the crossover events!
Im more used to look at lindy vids than WCS so it really stands out to me when the westie follows lack the bounce/pulse when dancing lindy, probably not as good at noticing WCS that's a bit too lindy-ish. I do think the crossover is harder for the follows in general though, move more and do more stylings so nailing both is really hard
It makes sense that it would be harder for follows, because it's not just the bounce, it's also styling, which has to be appropriate to the music and the period of the music. (Can you imagine a low down and dirty booty-shaking body roll to an upbeat lindy tune from 1945? Not so much.)
I'll send some more time in youtube today and tomorrow and see what I can find. Thanks for introducing me to the crossover events. It's very, very educational to see two swing dances that have completely different characters, side by side.
This is another good crossover. Whereas Ben seems to be mostly WCS with Lindy background, Max is a well-known Lindy pro who I didn't previously know did WCS. And Tessa is of course awesome, but I didn't know she did Lindy. Note that the tempo of the Lindy song is 245bpm, which is faster than most Lindy comp music and very fast for anyone who doesn't do a ton of Lindy. I thought they won, but it doesn't say on that video. (P.S. OK, one of the videos above had Max in it too. And the three Lindy songs above were 180-190bpm.)
Yeah. Apparently, I am one of the lucky ones. There will be two large swing dance competitions held near me this year. One is WCS and includes the chance to register for the Skippy Blair intensive workshop (It's taught by two other certified instructors. The other one advertises "America's Top Competitors," but doesn't specify, except for these:
Jeannie Tucker * Barry Jones
Angel & Debbie Figueroa * Deborah Szekely
Damon & Lisa D‟Amico * Matt & Crystal Auclair
Shawn & Kristen Moody
Scott Stuart & Melina Ramirez-Stuart
Both are pretty far in the future, so the schedules probably aren't finalized yet.I will definitely be there.
Oh man, I have so many good Lindy clips saved. But here's one choreographed showcase, which has great energy & musicality, and one pro "social demo" which is just well-executed socially leadable moves. BTW, there's a pinned thread of video clips in the main swing forum but it seems really out of date...
I love both the clips, btw, bookish. The second one raises some questions for me, though. Lindy hop is a HUGE dance, in terms of the amount of real estate a couple takes up on the dance floor. This pro couple is demonstrating social Lindy and basically uses the entire dance floor all by themselves. (That doesn't seem too social to me. lol.) How the heck do you manage to minimize collisions? What's the etiquette? Yes. I know that should be in a separate thread, so I'll go look and see if we already have one. If we do, I'll bump it up If not, I'll start a new one.
Good catch. You can dance on the spot, but they're using the space because they have it. It's more just that the moves are socially leadable and not choreo/flash. Most of them could take up less space.
Also, at Lindy events especially in the later and late hours where many of the beginners and others have already left to go home, there is A LOT of real estate available on the dance floor. A lot of magic takes place during those times. You can become creative, experiment with new moves, get silly, and all kinds of craziness!
Oh wow congratulations to your teacher! That's an amazing video and I was about to go and post it here when I saw you'd done it already
As for dancing lindy socially on crowded dance floors it totally works but can get a bit floorcraft heavy sometimes, as in a big part of the brainspace of the dancers is being taken up with managing floorcraft rather than letting go and -dancing-. I have also been bumped into and kicked etc. it does happen. Another reason why dancing in flats is recommended. Being accidentally kicked or stood on by someone in sueded sneakers or other flats is way better than being kicked by someone wearing heels
Here's a nice clip of people social dancing to a live band