What's with the little colored squares?

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fascination

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first of all no one would have known about that comment if you hadn't told everyone that you got it...so any embarrasment you may, have you inadvertantly widened the circle of on your own...secondly, my red squares just mean to me that someone (for instance, you, twice) didn't like what I had to say...that is no big deal and it certainly doesn't discourage me or you so what's the biggie?
 

fascination

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lastly, if the red squares you give out arent a sign of your rudeness why are the ones given to you a sign of rudeness?...just b/c you don't agree doesnt mean the other was being rude or mean spirited...they may not agree with you
 

fascination

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chandra said:
Ok, heres my take on all of this. (bear with me if this is wondering and poorly phrased... I cant quite figure out how to get what I mean accross)

Ive been having fun playing with this feature, as have others. Incidently, all of my red squares are for square whoring posts. (I just got called an "ego maniac" for agreeing to square trade with fascintaion.)

Obviously, this feature bothers people. And I agree that the way we are using it now, is just a fun game. My 3 squares arent there cause I said anything really useful or serious (I havent been posting in serious threads much recently), only cause I play the rep game.

We KNOW that not everyone is going to agree with what we have to say, its just a fact of life. The way the system is set up now, with limits on how much rep one can give to a particular person, trys to lesson the damage that personal dislike can do to someones reputation. I think it is important to judge posts not people. (I have given rep to posters that in general I am not fond of their tone, for a good post) The over all composit of rep gives us our thoughts as a community on the quality of a persons posts. As its a new feature now, we are playing around, giving out alot of rep.

I agree and disagree that this system needs to be taken less seriously. I agree with it, the way it was implied, that its not that big a deal, and we dont need to get worked up over it. We can discuss it NICELY. But, I also think that for it to work the way dancementor seems to be invisioning it, and not as a popularity contest, it needs to be taken more seriosly in a way. People should give people rep cause they appreciate a post, or really dont appreciate a post, not just on a whim, or cause they ask. I really think thats the only way we will get what we want out of it. Also, I really think people need to give rep to posts not people, like I mentioned earlier.

Over the last (dang, more than a year now) I have been part of this forum, the mood seems to eb and flow. We have weeks where there are alot of arguments, and dissatisfaction, but I think, on the whole, DF is an amazingly freindly wonderful comunity that is very warm and welcoming to all members. I think if this system could work for any board, it could work for us.

Oh, incidently, I leave my name when i leave comments, cause I like to know who appreciates my posts, and I think others feel the same.

As ussual, IMHO, IME, etc.
you are awesome and well spoken chandra...unfortuneately, I have thought so far too often recently...so here's a hug
 

cornutt

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PasoDancer said:
So if we fill out a complaint card to DF, does that mean we get free burgers?
I want extra Swarovskis on mine, please.
You get coupons for 10% off on your next post. ;)

And: why do you keep eating those glass crystals? (ducks) :shock:
 

cornutt

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Allow me to engage in a bit of mediation:

Fascination: :kissme:

SPratt74: :kissme:

PasoDancer: :kissme:

Larinda: :kissme: (oh, wait, she wasn't in that! Aah, what the hey...)
 
fascination said:
first of all no one would have known about that comment if you hadn't told everyone that you got it...so any embarrasment you may, have you inadvertantly widened the circle of on your own...secondly, my red squares just mean to me that someone (for instance, you, twice) didn't like what I had to say...that is no big deal and it certainly doesn't discourage me or you so what's the biggie?
The biggie is that we can't see who is giving away what, and therefore some of these posters are being extremely mean when they comment. I don't know why you can see who gives you the posts we give out when we can't.
 
fascination said:
lastly, if the red squares you give out arent a sign of your rudeness why are the ones given to you a sign of rudeness?...just b/c you don't agree doesnt mean the other was being rude or mean spirited...they may not agree with you
Yes they were being mean with the kind of comments we are receiving. And I never said that the red squares given to me were a sign of rudeness. I said that I'm receiving red squares for no reason when I'm making positive remarks and for this reason people are just being mean. Please reread my posts.
 

mamboqueen

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SPratt74 said:
Yes they were being mean with the kind of comments we are receiving. And I never said that the red squares given to me were a sign of rudeness. I said that I'm receiving red squares for no reason when I'm making positive remarks and for this reason people are just being mean. Please reread my posts.



Well, what you might perceive as a positive remark might be something that someone else finds irritating or annoying. It's really pretty subjective. I guess the part I don't like about the system is that you'll never really know the reason you got the red square unless someone made it clear to you in the "comments" thread.
 

fascination

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SPratt74 said:
The biggie is that we can't see who is giving away what, and therefore some of these posters are being extremely mean when they comment. I don't know why you can see the posts we give out when we can't.
well, if someone says your post is off base that strikes me as pretty low on the "mean-o-meter"...as for the rest, there are many things that mods are able to see as a neccessity for making judgements and other things that only admins can see...that is part of the perk..lol...and there are pleny of drawbacks
 
cornutt said:
Allow me to engage in a bit of mediation:

Fascination: :kissme:

SPratt74: :kissme:

PasoDancer: :kissme:

Larinda: :kissme: (oh, wait, she wasn't in that! Aah, what the hey...)
Thanks Cornutt! I'm trying to stay patient, but this is all really very ridiculous.
 

fascination

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SPratt74 said:
Yes they were being mean with the kind of comments we are receiving. And I never said that the red squares given to me were a sign of rudeness. I said that I'm receiving red squares for no reason when I'm making positive remarks and for this reason people are just being mean. Please reread my posts.
I have read them sufficiently ..again IMO
 

fascination

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mamboqueen said:
Well, what you might perceive as a positive remark might be something that someone else finds irritating or annoying. It's really pretty subjective. I guess the part I don't like about the system is that you'll never really know the reason you got the red square unless someone made it clear to you in the "comments" thread.
and if they made it clear by saying they thought it was off base and one dosen't agree...they can't go back and do a dissertation on why, nor should they
 

fascination

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cornutt said:
Allow me to engage in a bit of mediation:

Fascination: :kissme:

SPratt74: :kissme:

PasoDancer: :kissme:

Larinda: :kissme: (oh, wait, she wasn't in that! Aah, what the hey...)
nuzzle back at you...and FTR...I am only supporting paso's decision to go out and drink wine ...not her comments re spratt
 
fascination said:
well, if someoe says your post is off base that strikes me as pretty low on the "mean-o-meter"...as for the rest, there are many things that mods are able to see as a neccessity for making judgements and other things that only admins can see...that is part of the perk..lol...and there are pleny of drawbacks
I'm sure, but it's not right to disclose who gives what which is why I reported Larinda's post today especially since we don't have the same feature. I like how you and I have been actually very civil even though we have had disagreements over this. But it's not right to post stuff that not everyone else can, and I would think that stuff like that as to which you moderators can do and can't do should be kept quiet if we don't have the same feature, so it's not hurtful to the posters, because that to me is also abusing the sytem since we now know that have that feature. I didn't even know that you had it until this morning and now again tonight. Why don't you then tell on everyone who gave you red squares so that I don't feel singled out? I'm sure they would feel the same way that I do!

Anyways, I know that someone saying that I was off base is pretty low on the mean mark compared to what Chandra and some of the others have been through. I was trying to make the point that there are some people that are not using the system correctly. It was a positive post, and it was on topic. And I'm not going to stop stating my thoughts even though there are some people that are trying to get me to do so it seems.

And yes, I have received harsher comments that I'm not going to repeat. They are hurtful, and it makes it to where you don't want to post at all. It doesn't make you want to change your way of posting, but more like you don't want to post and just leave the forum completely. I was having fun up until now, and I know others feel the same way. Now, this whole system has completely changed people and everyone's true self is coming out. Me... I've always been blunt like some others, so that shouldn't be any surprise lol.
 
fascination said:
nuzzle back at you...and FTR...I am only supporting paso's decision to go out and drink wine ...not her comments re spratt
Thanks, but it's alright. We all think differently!!!!! And some views we'll agree on and some we won't. It would make a very boring world if we all agreed all of the time lol!!!! ;)
 

mamboqueen

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If we didn't mention here that the moderators can see who says what to who as far as the reputation goes, then you'd be getting nastier nasty-grams than you're getting. Larinda's missive earlier on about being careful what you say was for the specific purpose of letting people here know that they need to be very MINDFUL of what they choose to say to other posters in their "comments" section. I'm sorry that that knowledge might bother you or others, but it was for a very good reason. The feature was being abused.
 

fascination

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SPratt74 said:
I'm sure, but it's not right to disclose who gives what which is why I reported Larinda's post today especially since we don't have the same feature. I like how you and I have been actually very civil even though we have had disagreements over this. But it's not right to post stuff that not everyone else can, and I would think that stuff like that as to which you moderators can do and can't do should be kept quiet if we don't have the same feature, so it's not hurtful to the posters, because that to me is also abusing the sytem since we now know that have that feature. I didn't even know that you had it until this morning and now again tonight. Why don't you then tell on everyone who gave you red squares so that I don't feel singled out? I'm sure they would feel the same way that I do!
sometimes, like now, I hardly understand what you are saying so I can't comment fully...but I am simply trying to illustrate a point using only you and i since that stuff is no surprise to you or me....mod priveleges aren't about fair or unfair...and they aren't up for debate...and I don't know of any current mod who would abuse them or who would get away with it if they did..

Spratt74 said:
It was a positive post, and it was on topic. And I'm not going to stop stating my thoughts even though there are some people that are trying to get me to do so it seems.
i rather doubt that folks think a red square is going to silence anyone...as you mention, especially not someone like you or me

Spratt74 said:
Now, this whole system has completely changed people and everyone's true self is coming out. Me... I've always been blunt like some others, so that shouldn't be any surprise lol.
I also doubt that this system has changed anyone...only magnified their tendencies...most people are true to theirselves, just like you
 
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