Ok... my take on cumbia. A couple of them in 1 night can be ok.. BUT for me, it's as bad as merengue or even worse :shock: Perhaps the fact that our local Chilian DJ (1 of my salsa friends calls him a terrorist :lol: ) plays the SAME cumbia every time he plays contributes to my aversion towards cumbia...
Actually, I find that there is really little room for making use of having a good connection for cumbia...Just rocking back and forth.. kinda kills any good connection between the partners.. :roll: Only thing can I do is maybe to be playful with eye contact! What can I do to make it more fun given a decent lead?? (The leads that I can dance with are all pretty good - native colombians, chillians, and other south americans)
hey, that's good that you can enjoy dancing to any kinda latin music, cocodrilo! I wish I could be like that Nothing more annoying when I'm so pump to dance but the music's all wrong for the whole night :roll:
Well, yes and no. I like the old old folky sounding cumbias. I think the latest ones that I actually like are the ones from around the 60s/70s. Most stuff after that I've never really heard or liked much.
I still remember the day when I heard my first salsa in a CD shop - the non-obvious rhythm, the bass hardly ever playing on one, the jazzy instrumentation completely hooked me. Up to now nothing comes close to that for me.
Cumbia for me is way to straightforward regarding the percussion and always a good time to take a drink. :lol:
See, thats the problem with a lot of the cumbias that came out after a certain era. It got to a point where, they took a lot of the folkloric elements out, and wanted to make it more simple and commercial. And then it spread to other places like argentina and mexico, and they ended up doing even worse modifications to make it more commercial - everyone was adding crazy synths and electric guitars. In mexico and argentina, they took away more afro-percussion and added drum kits and who knows what else. Originally, cumbia used to be filled with much more percussive sounds, but thats the part of the story most people don't hear, because that old sound of cumbia has long passed away. Most people today know about the ones with trumpets and timbales and congas (which actually came about due to the 50s mambo craze in colombia at the time). The original cumbias were composed of [some or all of these:] indigenous flutes (and eventually, the german accordion), the indigenous maraca (or guacharaca even [guiro/guira in other countries]), the african tambor, the african tambora, and the african caja, and the guasa/guache (I'm not sure where this one came from - most likely indigenous also). It even had a great traditional dance that went with it.
Anyways, not saying its worse or better in sound (thats up to you the listener to decide) - I just think its sad how some great old genres of music that represent the folklore of your country/people and its heritage can so quickly be changed and forgotten. It loses its value - the thing that makes it special. Its really a social connection to musical history question, not really musical as in, "hey, this sounds nice"
Then again, if it would've stay true to its roots, nobody would've liked it, cause it sounded too gritty. Honestly now, how many people turn on the radio, or go to clubs to listen to some of those rhythms you see a small primitive tribe in africa dance/sing/party to on the educational networks. Cumbia (and the other tropicales) would be seen that way today, so would vallenato probably.
How many of you know about mapalé, currulao, and how to dance it? See what I mean.
Yeah, long rant, but hey, if tito puente could do it for mambo, I'll do it for colombian music.
Anyhow, I still like some cumbias (or tropicales), but I prefer vallenato.