Vienesse waltz

Hi,

can someone give me some trick or hint about how to do the rising and lowering phase in vienesse waltz. I think you have to rise first one of the feet and the same applies for the lowering, am I right?. However, I usually rise and lower both feet at the same time. I find it difficult to do it differently.

Any hint would be great!

Thanks in advance

I haven't done Vienesse Waltz, but unless this is different from what I'm thinking of I was told there is no rise and fall since it is so fast.

Hey serg_juv! Good to see you posting again.

I can't give in-depth technical help here, because I've studied Viennese waltz only briefly, and with a very bad teacher. :cry: Maybe someone else can shed more light.

However, it looks like spitfire was close -- all the descriptions of VW I could find (and my memory as well) show that Viennese waltz has only a very subtle rise and fall action. Subtle, but definitely there.

I found a couple articles that may interest you.

http://www.dancesport.uk.com/tid-bits/issue016.htm -- A high level overview of rise and fall for the "swing" dances -- Waltz, V Waltz, foxtrot, quickstep

http://www.umich.edu/~umbdc/haagr/PDF's/V_Waltz.pdf -- a somewhat incomplete, but still good description and step listing for the dance

http://www.sandance.us/docs/rise_n_fall.pdf -- A really good step by step explanation of rise and fall

It is very easy to rise too much in the Viennese Waltz. It is best to stay low and let much of the rise come through the body, but bust like Slow Waltz, the specifications are...

Down on 1
Commence to rise at the end of 1
Continue rising thru 2 and 3
Lower at the end of 3

...but it essential that the rise is not too much. Rather, you should lower more.

In two weeks I return to my ballroom roots teaching vienesse waltz, schottiche, mazurka, polka, etc, as part of "The Great Charles Dickens Christmas Fair".

I love the Victorian style of the VW, it is one of the most beautiful dances, especially the Congress of Vienna.

As shown here, there is definately a rise and fall, the speed forces it to be subtle, not the dance itself. There are "slow" vienesse waltzes and you would rise more on those than the faster ones.

pygmalion said:

http://www.umich.edu/~umbdc/haagr/PDF's/V-Waltz.pdf -- a somewhat incomplete, but still good description and step listing for the dance

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It's a little weird. For the forward half (either Reverse or Natural,) you swing up into foot rise. For the back half, body rise only. Sway on 2, 3 of both halves. At least, that's how the Continental style (which is the competition style) is described in Alex Moore's book.

Actually, rise and fall, especially in the Standard dances, is such a ridiculously complicated subject that I'm really loathe to post about it at all.

Sagitta said:

pygmalion said:

http://www.umich.edu/~umbdc/haagr/PDF's/V-Waltz.pdf -- a somewhat incomplete, but still good description and step listing for the dance

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http://www.umich.edu/~umbdc/haagr/PDF's/V_Waltz.pdf