A few questions about vocabulary

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rubyred

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Hi!
I'm a beginner tango follower, I've been dancing for only a few weeks but seem to be progressing nicely. I'm rather broke, so i don't get to take private lessons and am still looking for teachers I'd like to take group lessons with. I've still been going to many milongas, and as I've picked up the basics (enough for me to follow any leader who's considerate enough to dance at my level) I get asked very frequently to dance and get a lot of practice this way. But after this kind of learning, I've ended up following things (intuitively) that I never learned in a group lesson, such as molinetes and barridas, which I now know what they are. But there are a few terms I've heard where the vocab list often linked here doesn't quite clear up. What exactly is an ocho cortado? Also, can someone accurately describe a boleo and how it's led and what happens, because I think i may have been led / given room for one (?) and just missed the lead, and haven't had a chance to ask teachers about it.
Also, if anyone has any advice on the Chicago tango scene specifically (teachers, milongas I might not have been to) please message me.
Thanks!
 
rubyred said:
Hi!
I'm a beginner tango follower, I've been dancing for only a few weeks but seem to be progressing nicely. I'm rather broke, so i don't get to take private lessons and am still looking for teachers I'd like to take group lessons with. I've still been going to many milongas, and as I've picked up the basics (enough for me to follow any leader who's considerate enough to dance at my level) I get asked very frequently to dance and get a lot of practice this way. But after this kind of learning, I've ended up following things (intuitively) that I never learned in a group lesson, such as molinetes and barridas, which I now know what they are. But there are a few terms I've heard where the vocab list often linked here doesn't quite clear up. What exactly is an ocho cortado? Also, can someone accurately describe a boleo and how it's led and what happens, because I think i may have been led / given room for one (?) and just missed the lead, and haven't had a chance to ask teachers about it.
Also, if anyone has any advice on the Chicago tango scene specifically (teachers, milongas I might not have been to) please message me.
Thanks!
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you might try this thread...

http://www.dance-forums.com/showthread.php?t=27314
 
thanks for the suggestion, but this is what that vocab list has to say about ochos cortados:
"Ochos Cortados
Cut eights: A common figure which is designed to allow interpretation of rhythmic music while dancing in a confined space."It doesn't really give me a visual of what that might be on the dance floor...what i am looking for is a detailed description of an ocho cortado, as well as a boleo.
 
Here you can find some short videos illustrating some things.

h t t p://w w w.tangocity.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=section&id=4&Itemid=48

Explainig the ocho cortado with words won't probably help you much but nowadays you can find anything on Youtube, for instance for an ocho cortado

h t t p://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=z006zJqs4VM
 
Ah thank you for the links. I believe I now have a good idea what ocho cortado is. I guess I was confused because it looks more like a cross than an "ocho" per se.
As for boleo, I know what they look like, but how is one led and what is the technique involved?
 
rubyred said:
As for boleo, I know what they look like, but how is one led and what is the technique involved?
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What is it? A boleo is nothing but an interupted ocho that changes direction.

How its lead: The most common is a back boleo. The leader initiates back ochos, but, before you can land the moving (crossing) behind foot, the leader braces and changes your direction from a back ocho to a front ocho. At which point, your free leg snaps, whips, rebounds as a reaction to the resolute change in direction.

Note* High boleos are nice, but make sure you have space. Do not do them in a crowded milonga. You'll kick someone. Low boleos are just as beautiful and appropriate in crowded social environmnet.

Oscr_Casas_and_low_boleos

Dario"s_Tango_Guide_9_"The_Boleo"
 
rubyred said:
Hi!
I'm a beginner tango follower, I've been dancing for only a few weeks but seem to be progressing nicely. I'm rather broke, so i don't get to take private lessons and am still looking for teachers I'd like to take group lessons with. I've still been going to many milongas, and as I've picked up the basics (enough for me to follow any leader who's considerate enough to dance at my level) I get asked very frequently to dance and get a lot of practice this way. But after this kind of learning, I've ended up following things (intuitively) that I never learned in a group lesson, such as molinetes and barridas, which I now know what they are. But there are a few terms I've heard where the vocab list often linked here doesn't quite clear up. What exactly is an ocho cortado? Also, can someone accurately describe a boleo and how it's led and what happens, because I think i may have been led / given room for one (?) and just missed the lead, and haven't had a chance to ask teachers about it.
Also, if anyone has any advice on the Chicago tango scene specifically (teachers, milongas I might not have been to) please message me.
Thanks!
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What an attractively unforgettable name: rubyred. And good for you that despite your beginnership, you still attend milongas - AND - you dance. And that you "intuitively" follow is testament to how easily you gel with the dance. That said, attending a class is always a good thing (no need to throw money at private 1-2-1s if the class you eventually find is technically good and generously forgiving) as you will get to focus more on the technique of not only the walking but the stuff that the guys here have already outlined/explained to you. Happy dancing.
 
rubyred said:
Ah thank you for the links. I believe I now have a good idea what ocho cortado is. I guess I was confused because it looks more like a cross than an "ocho" per se.
As for boleo, I know what they look like, but how is one led and what is the technique involved?
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there are a lot of different ways to lead a follower to a crossed position. Ocho cortado is one of them and there's bunches of different ways to lead an ocho cortado also, with the general effect ending up crossing in front of the leader.
 
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