Diavo said:
I don't think saying that you're a beginner when you are the one asking is necessary, but I think follows asking leads to dance should watch their target dance before asking.
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same goes the other way around, doesn't it?
now that i'm practicing my lead skills, i watch the ladies first. See if they're more or less my level. than i ask them (unless i know them, than i often ask 'up'). that way you're never in trouble (unless you over- or underestimate your own abillities :wink
What you must understand as a lead, is that the lady is much more dependant on the lead's dancing level for her own level of dancing, than vice versa.
an experienced lead can do relative simple turnpaterns for the lady and then amuse himself with tripple spins or whatever.
an experienced follow dancing with a beginner lead can do NO SUCH THING!!
it would be VERY rude for her to go tripple spinning while her partner is leading a single. and bad following as well.
Now i don't mean that the only enjoyment of the dance is in the difficulty. i'd rather be dancing with a relative beginner who dances ON TIME, knows not too many patterns, but LEADS WHAT HE KNOWS WELL, than with a so called advanced lead who is off beat and janks me through the patterns. Or for instance if the guy is a friend of mine, i dance with him no matter his level.
But... and maybe this sounds harsh... we're all there to enjoy our selves...and for me this goes especially for some favourite mambosongs... some songs just cry out for a really great dance, a challenge, a 'fix', ... and than i'd rather not dance.. than not be able to completely 'give myself' to the music (and my partner).... so then i would say 'no'... No offence meant to the less experienced... but later try to find the guy for an other song.
Bottomline:
i'd say it if i were asking some-one above my level of leading. She'd be probably more patient with my mistakes... And if she's doesn't care for dancing with less experienced leads, well, better now it now, than while dancing, like Sagitta said.