Pablo´s lead
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hbboogie1
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This is an excellent example for salon style dancing. His left arm is always between him and his partner. He’s holding his hand in line with the woman’s mouth which is exactly where it belongs. Her embrace is also perfect notice her arm on his shoulder when he has her in close embrace and see how easy it is for her to slide her hand down to his biceps when he moves her to open position.
This is what I was trying to point out in a previous thread about the woman’s arm wrapped over the man’s back and hanging down near his wallet = no balance.
By the way…great video
This is what I was trying to point out in a previous thread about the woman’s arm wrapped over the man’s back and hanging down near his wallet = no balance.
By the way…great video
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jantango
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This is Pablo Veron dancing with Rebecca Shulman during an exhibition at the 1997 Stanford Tango Week.
I don't see any problem with his left arm. However, for me his right arm never provides any embrace for his partner. Pablo wants to dance on his own so there is always separation between them.
All I saw in the video was an excess of voleos by Rebecca. This was the introduction of "tango nuevo" at Stanford. It is not salon tango for a crowded floor. The nuevo style requires floor space in which to execute figures. It doesn't consider other dancers on the floor.
I know of two female teachers in Buenos Aires who used to teach only social tango and who are now teaching tango nuevo -- because it's business.
I don't see any problem with his left arm. However, for me his right arm never provides any embrace for his partner. Pablo wants to dance on his own so there is always separation between them.
All I saw in the video was an excess of voleos by Rebecca. This was the introduction of "tango nuevo" at Stanford. It is not salon tango for a crowded floor. The nuevo style requires floor space in which to execute figures. It doesn't consider other dancers on the floor.
I know of two female teachers in Buenos Aires who used to teach only social tango and who are now teaching tango nuevo -- because it's business.
bordertangoman
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I dont think this tango nuevo at all. Its just well performed stage/tango
opendoor
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I do agree, I think he dances very traditionally and grabbed the style of the great stage and performance dancers. But, what is Nuevo then? Once I was scolded here, because I wrote, Nuevo is the little brother of stage and fantasia, not the son of salón style at all. Splitting hairs? I do know what Neo is, but what is Nuevo style tango, yet? Copes f.i.? He danced and choreographed Piazzolla, and made open embrace dancing decent. Or Naveira and Salas, they brought the theory and didactics ten years later?
Lovely seventies anyway
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jantango
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If this was a performance as one would see on stage, Rebecca Shulman would be wearing a dress and heels. She and Pablo would be dancing a choreography focused on the audience. They are not.
Watch the video again and count the number of times she does the same front voleo or kick. A performance would have much more variety than this improvised demonstration.
Compare this video to one of Gustavo Naveira or Fabian Salas. It's all the same -- tango nuevo.
opendoor
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yes, it no performance for an audience! Stage Tango does not refer to the place where it is danced, it is a style mainly associated with Antonio Todaro. I only thought about the manner Veron is dancing: in small, and mostly in large circles, intermitted by large stepping forward. Naveira is different, sometimes his dancing is closer to social and salón tango. His specialty is a kind of walking in a star-shaped way: rebotes, alternaciones, sudden cunitas. His floor space requirements lie between stage (strict sense of meaning) and social dancing.