What kind of music?
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wadpro
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Thanks for sharing ! And, only one questionis it possible for you to upload la Colegiala, too? I only have this version with background noise.
OD
Here is La Colegiala
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GozePB7HqE
And superb dance show with La Colegiala
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edi5dMJwPVs
Captain Jep
Active Member
Thanks lol :tongue:
This may help:
http://www.tejastango.com/tandas.html
You don't play for yourself, you play for people dancing.
I would go for at least 2 tango tanda, then vals, milonga or nuevo.
Tango popular songs are recommended, cause dancers are familiar with the music.
http://www.tejastango.com/tandas.html
You don't play for yourself, you play for people dancing.
I would go for at least 2 tango tanda, then vals, milonga or nuevo.
Tango popular songs are recommended, cause dancers are familiar with the music.
Angel HI
Well-Known Member
A rather famous argentine violinsta friend of mine says that Japonesita is definitely not a Fox (didn't know why it was labled such), and that in BsAs they call this a pasodoble; typically danced by the campadritos; not to be confused with the BR paso doble.
bastet
Active Member
Thanks Angel- I knew you could shed some light on the tempo and styling of that Rodriguez stuff.
I too saw it labeled as Foxtrot (but then I see traditional tango labeled as "Latin" music also) and knew the tempo and feel was not right for it...Since I don't know any other PD than the Ballroom kind, I'll just have to imagine what they did with it back then...I'm still imagining something Peabody-like...an interesting thing to ponder...
Peaches
Well-Known Member
Thanks, Tangoturko, for posting those links! 
Without having read Angel's reply...I'd be tempted to say I had no bloody clue about Japonesita. Not sure where anything fox-related would come into it. If absolutely pressed, I'd have said it was a milonga. It doesn't have the habanera rhythm, but it's got that jaunty feel to it. Ditto La Colegiala.
But Angel's response about Japonesita makes a ton more sense than anything I was coming up with.
Without having read Angel's reply...I'd be tempted to say I had no bloody clue about Japonesita. Not sure where anything fox-related would come into it. If absolutely pressed, I'd have said it was a milonga. It doesn't have the habanera rhythm, but it's got that jaunty feel to it. Ditto La Colegiala.
But Angel's response about Japonesita makes a ton more sense than anything I was coming up with.
opendoor
Forum Master
PasoDoble or light at the end of the tunnel
Wow, thanks a lot, that is interesting! Paso doble is not Paso doble ! Could it be, that argentine Paso doble is a native variant of Quickstep-Foxtrot-RagTime ??
I did not find any suitable material, yet, Nor Dancilla, nor wiki, nor streetswing.
Only Daso doble or spanish TwoStep, sometimes spanish one-step, is a military marching dance, mostly in 2/4 signature. The bullfighting and flamenco elements are secondary stuff.
Wow, thanks a lot, that is interesting! Paso doble is not Paso doble ! Could it be, that argentine Paso doble is a native variant of Quickstep-Foxtrot-RagTime ??
I did not find any suitable material, yet, Nor Dancilla, nor wiki, nor streetswing.
Only Daso doble or spanish TwoStep, sometimes spanish one-step, is a military marching dance, mostly in 2/4 signature. The bullfighting and flamenco elements are secondary stuff.
flashdance
Active Member
This 1983 song always reminds me of Tango in a fun kind of way... killer guitar 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1r5ocT7AYg
After 5m 50s that song becomes :notworth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1r5ocT7AYg
After 5m 50s that song becomes :notworth:
Maybe when people doen't know what to call something...
In listening to music on TodoTango, I've often been surprised at what things were "labeled as". And, just as a sort of throw off line, how much does it really matter?
I was looking at some info about a famous/infamous Western Swing band leader, Spade Cooley, and just saw today that Decca records called his stuff Foxtrot. I also saw soemthing that confirms what I just took from Wikipedia.
When rock and roll first emerged in the early 1950s, record companies were uncertain as to what style of dance would be most applicable to the music. Famously, Decca Records initially labelled its rock and roll releases as "Fox trots", most notably "Rock Around the Clock" by Bill Haley and His Comets. Since that recording, by some estimates, went on to sell more than 25 million copies, "Rock Around the Clock" is technically the biggest-selling "Foxtrot" of all time.
In listening to music on TodoTango, I've often been surprised at what things were "labeled as". And, just as a sort of throw off line, how much does it really matter?
I was looking at some info about a famous/infamous Western Swing band leader, Spade Cooley, and just saw today that Decca records called his stuff Foxtrot. I also saw soemthing that confirms what I just took from Wikipedia.
When rock and roll first emerged in the early 1950s, record companies were uncertain as to what style of dance would be most applicable to the music. Famously, Decca Records initially labelled its rock and roll releases as "Fox trots", most notably "Rock Around the Clock" by Bill Haley and His Comets. Since that recording, by some estimates, went on to sell more than 25 million copies, "Rock Around the Clock" is technically the biggest-selling "Foxtrot" of all time.
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mshedgehog
New Member
Hi Tangoturko
I know a lot of people have trouble working this out - I know I could feel a difference between tango and milonga for a very long time without being able to figure out exactly what the difference was. Now I can confidently say that milonga always has the habañera rhythm going on somewhere (people often recognise it from Carmen or from Egyptian or Turkish music), whereas tango has a definite slowish ONE - two - three- four, or sometimes a more even one - two - one - two.
So Carnaval de mi Barrio is a tango, but it's a very even one - two - one - two tango. You don't hear the habañera rhythm there. But it does feel fast, like milongas do, because its beats are so even. So if you didn't know to listen for the habañera specifically it seems similar.
Vals of course is always One-two-three, One-two-three, quite fast so that you'd step on the One, and to me it always feels wavy. El Choclo also feels wavy, and fast; but if you listen only for the strongest, regular sounds, and clap along with them, you don't get a one-two-three so you know it isn't a vals. You get a ONE - two - three - four, very steady and repeated at a walking pace. The wavy feeling is just the way the piano is filling in the spaces between.
I've done a little YouTube walkthrough starting with the habañera rhythm and milonga and then digressing a bit into Salsa and all sorts. Let me know if it's any use to you - if it is, I'll do one that includes vals. It might not be, as it's very hard to tell someone in writing what to listen for. You need someone who can already do it to it listen with you, really, and wave their arms to help you see what you're hearing.
The thing to do is to listen only for the strongest, regular shapes in the sound and not get distracted by the details. You'll feel that there are stronger sounds and weaker sounds. The relationship between them is the rhythm.
I know a lot of people have trouble working this out - I know I could feel a difference between tango and milonga for a very long time without being able to figure out exactly what the difference was. Now I can confidently say that milonga always has the habañera rhythm going on somewhere (people often recognise it from Carmen or from Egyptian or Turkish music), whereas tango has a definite slowish ONE - two - three- four, or sometimes a more even one - two - one - two.
So Carnaval de mi Barrio is a tango, but it's a very even one - two - one - two tango. You don't hear the habañera rhythm there. But it does feel fast, like milongas do, because its beats are so even. So if you didn't know to listen for the habañera specifically it seems similar.
Vals of course is always One-two-three, One-two-three, quite fast so that you'd step on the One, and to me it always feels wavy. El Choclo also feels wavy, and fast; but if you listen only for the strongest, regular sounds, and clap along with them, you don't get a one-two-three so you know it isn't a vals. You get a ONE - two - three - four, very steady and repeated at a walking pace. The wavy feeling is just the way the piano is filling in the spaces between.
I've done a little YouTube walkthrough starting with the habañera rhythm and milonga and then digressing a bit into Salsa and all sorts. Let me know if it's any use to you - if it is, I'll do one that includes vals. It might not be, as it's very hard to tell someone in writing what to listen for. You need someone who can already do it to it listen with you, really, and wave their arms to help you see what you're hearing.
The thing to do is to listen only for the strongest, regular shapes in the sound and not get distracted by the details. You'll feel that there are stronger sounds and weaker sounds. The relationship between them is the rhythm.