Pet Peeves at Dances

wooh said:
^^Perfectly stated!!
for me that is the real defining factor of ballroom...and I thought it was hokey when I started...but my pro would never walk onto or off the floor without offering me his arm...and at group he insists that that is how the gentlemen pass us off to each other...and I think part of the reason for that is that it sets a tone for the treatment during the dance as well...and that is why I just find the behavior you described to be an affront to the whole concept...and I wouldn't feel the least bit rude in refusing the guy...and if he asked I would welcome the chance to explain it...but generally that type wouldn't:rolleyes:
 
some examples:

smelly hair or BO
Zits, especially on the back and/or shoulders
moustache trace
hairy armpit
expecting the move instead of following lead
backleaders
if she is uglier than me
conversationalists in dance
medusa hairstyle
 
Sabor said:
some examples:
if she is uglier than me

Hmmm... I'm hoping that was a joke, because that's pretty harsh don't you think?

Anyhow, another pet peeve of mine is when a guy knows that you are annoyed with him, but still keeps acting like a jerk like what happened to me again tonight with the same person that I talked about earlier in this thread! All I did was to keep quiet when I was made to dance with him. (This was a group lesson by the way, so I had no choice.) Oh I was so mad, but thank goodness they changed songs and partners. I noticed that he did that with everyone else too, because I kept an eye on him. It wouldn't be so bad, but he is such a jerk! And the instructor kept telling him that we were only doing basics not anything fancy.

It's to bad I couldn't swear up a storm right now, but I can't really, because I did have fun the rest of the time though! Oh and I talked to the owner about him like what you guys said, and he told me to avoid him. I just didn't pay attention to him and glared at him the whole time we danced tonight. I mean is this guy dense or what? How could he not know that I was about ready to make sure that he couldn't reproduce, because we sure as heck don't need two of him running around! ;)

But again... I did have fun the rest of the night though lol! ;)
 
SPratt74 said:
Hmmm... I'm hoping that was a joke, because that's pretty harsh don't you think?

yeah.. harsh on me.. lol

it was just sarcasm, since no woman can be 'uglier' than me.. eh
 
DWise1 said:
What makes you think that we don't?
Second person singular: you
Second person plural: you

Verb conjugations for second person, singular and plural forms also identical to each other.

But seriously, I believe that in older forms of English you would find different forms for familiar and polite. Also note that while several European languages use the plural form for the polite, German as a distinct form along with familiar forms in both singular and plural and Spanish also has a different familiar plural form (vosotros) though many countries don't use it.

Precisely. As also Cornut pointed out, English doesn't lack such plural forms that express formality, rather it lacks singular forms expressing familiarity. So, in effect, english speakers are actually being formal or polite with everyone. And adopting the french polite forms is the reason that the informal thou/thee have become obsolete.

The following article in Wikipedia describes the formal forms used in some indo-european languages:

from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You

English and Dutch are similar in that both lost their old second person singular forms (those relating to the word "thou"), due to the use of the second person plural form as singular formal, with the plural ultimately replacing the singular totally as the informal forms came to be viewed as impolite. Ironically, this did not happen in French, the inventor of the formal plural; it has kept the system intact. Vous is still used as formal and plural, while tu is used for informal singular. Russian uses the French system also; vy (вы) is formal/plural and ty (ты) is informal singular. This probably resulted from the Russian aristocracy's use of French in Czarist Russia, and was likely strengthened by the T/V similarity in the French and Russian pronouns. This kind of system is also found in other languages, like Finnish and Swedish.

While English, Dutch, French and Russian use or have used the plural forms as the polite forms, other European languages use forms deriving from the third person. German, for example, uses the third person plural pronoun sie, capitalized Sie, as its formal pronoun (in other words, Sie literally means They). Danish and Norwegian languages similarly use De. Italian has separate forms for singular (Lei) and plural (Loro), which are derived from the Italian words for she and they respectively; a partial similarity to the German system (especially since the German word for she is also sie, but conjugates differently from Sie). However, sometimes the French system is also used in Italy, using the plural pronoun voi as singular.

Spanish and Portuguese use actual words which take third-person forms, and each has singular and plural forms. For Spanish, it is usted (pl. ustedes), and for Portuguese, você (pl. vocês). As in English, they seem to be supplanting the original second-person pronouns, which are now informal. The original Spanish second-person plural pronoun, vosotros, is now used only in Spain. Portuguese is farther along in losing them; the plural pronoun vós is gone totally in Brazil and used sporadically in Portugal, while the singular tu is dying out in Brazil, used sporadically in the southern region and certain rural parts of the country.
 
Sabor said:
yeah.. harsh on me.. lol

it was just sarcasm, since no woman can be 'uglier' than me.. eh

Haha! Sorry about that lol. I wasn't too sure, but you never know over the Internet! Thanks for clarifying that for me. By the way, is that you in your avatar? ;)
 
Sabor said:
yep.. good thing its small and far .. keeps my ugliness from shining through :)

Lol! Actually I was going to say, if you are the guy in that picture (don't know for sure which one you are lol), then you are gorgeous. It's funny because the guy in the picture acts like my dance instructor by the way that he moves. Interesting. The girl in that picture is beautiful too, and I love that dress. How fun! Sorry, but I can't tell from your profile if you are male or female, but the way that the guy looked resembled a lot like my dance instructor, so that could be why I was drawn to your picture, and that's a good thing. ;)
 
i'm the dude in the pic.. hola

i hope not many posters think i'm a she.. lol

wow.. u can tell a dancer's motion style from a still pic?? .. interesting
 
SPratt74 said:
but I can't tell from your profile if you are male or female,

Sabor said:
comon..think like a woman?! bwaahahaaa, yeah sure.. why not


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SPratt74 said:
but the way that the guy looked resembled a lot like my dance instructor, so that could be why I was drawn to your picture, and that's a good thing. ;)

This picture reminds of John Travolta in Saturday Day Night Fever.
 
"That said, I really hate it when young punks who think they are God's gift to rhythm/latin start cutting one off on the floor. Imagine dancing in your spot and suddenly you have some junior who thinks they are hot suddenly jab you in the eye doing a fancy arm styling and then not even bother to say sorry. And then give *you* a nasty look because you wer even 10 feet away from them. RRRRRRR :evil: And then try to retaliate towards you because you caused them to look bad... UGH. Teenagers. </end rant>"

ok so i know what your talking about here...what i hate most about junior dancers like that is that it make it soooooooooooo much harder for other junior dancers(like myself) to be taken seriousely in the dance world!

ps. not all of us are like that
 
Politics. "Oh, you went THERE? Hmmf *sniff*- WE don't because forty years ago this and that happened, and their mama, too. No, it doesn't concern you in the least, but you know, loyalty, after all, you ARE paying US to teach you... "

Cliques. You on one side, the entire studio on the other (With the exception of our wonderful friends we've made- hey, we have enough for our OWN clique now! LOL)

Non-Teachers.... Teaching. At a social. Not a workshop, not a lesson, a party. "Ma'am, would you like to (insert dance you've never done in your life)?"

"Oh... I'd like to, but I don't know how- EEEEEK" you're out on the floor, fumbling, walking, standing, looking, head-scratching while this sixty-year-old is having an epileptic vertical seizure around you, and you have three minutes of agony. Then, they hand you back, and go talk about you to their friends.

People who bitch about live bands OR recorded music. "Hmmf- this isn't dance-able. That isn't either. Neither is that."... Ok, have you considered that maybe YOU SUCK AT DANCING so badly that you can't adapt? If you want to gripe about everything (there are several exceptions- our local Rocky Creek, for example- the drummer should be fired.... out of a cannon....). I mean yes, some bands, some music, etc. plain SUCKS, but dancing is only as fun as you make it.

Other couples bitching on the floor. "No, it's like this- Well, NO, if YOU'd just do THIS...." we bump into them on accident.

Old hillbillies two-stepping at the speed of nothing on a FAST floor, contra-LOD.

Line dancers who gang up, wade out into a floor of partnered dancers, and start line-dancing- amidst partners, and gradually work everyone off the floor. These we Kool-Aid until they get the message.

The genius who brings tuna, garlic, or something else not suited for hand nor breath to a social.

People who stand in the middle of a crowded DANCE Floor to TALK... just so they can "be seen".

Country music (this one's obviously very personal, but... yes. Country Music. Period.)

Showboaters. The kind who show no regard for LOD, other people, or anything, and just do anything they want so that they get praise from wide-eyed newbies. Then act as if it's expected.

Leads who say "Yeah, it's been awhile since I took my last Gold Syllabus Waltz".... when they never actually have. They're just saying that, kind of like "I was hunting wolverines in Alaska with my uncle." (what did you use?)"A freakin' twelve-gauge, Gosh!" Then you such because they're all over your feet.

The fact that I didn't start dancing twenty years ago when I wanted to!
 
hmm...its been a while since I thought about this...but I'm going to say:

I don't care for men who ask me to dance and then try to teach me throughout, especially when they aren't good dancers...and act as if every missed follow was about a lapse on my part..."hello spagetti arm, just b/c your pro taught you that and knows what it means, doesn't mean I should"...or, "sorry when my pro and I chasse it covers at least 8 feet of ground...how the helck was I supposed to recognize that one when I didn't even feel a lead to promenade?"....normally these sort of errors are no big deal to me...but it really chaps me when someone ASKS me to dance and then assumes each error is my fault...now if I ask some guy who is really good and I fumble around, I am always apologetic and more than happy to ask for a pointer or two...but if YOU ask ME and you dont hear me asking for pointers or taking the blame, kindly spare me the tutoral or the look of shock that I didn't follow your perfect lead....

I also do not care for foxtrot mixers at all...

and would like to see more bolero, tango, waltz, and vw at parties and infinately less swing and hustle...

I think that's enough peevishness for now
 
Dancers who practice their acrobatics on a crowded dance floor.

Or worse yet, it's these dancers who come to the summer outdoor concerts and get up and dance with all the aerials and there are small kids around having fun "dancing" too. Someone could really get hurt.
 

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