newbie
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Ok so you're not the guy who inpired these lyrics from Vuelvo al Sur
siento el Sur,
como tu cuerpo en la intimidad.
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Ok so you're not the guy who inpired these lyrics from Vuelvo al Sur
siento el Sur,
como tu cuerpo en la intimidad.
Wecome milongadicta.
What about walking back to your table without your partner in front of you?
What about walking back to your table without your partner in front of you?
Captain Jep
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Ive nothing to say on this subject since I cant do more than one thing at a time 
(that is, dance and ... )
(that is, dance and ... )
Consuela
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He: 'Are you okay; do you want to stop?'
Me: [In muffled voice] 'No, I'm having fun...'
A little later, he walks me back to my seat. I don't know where to look....just not at him....
Of course, for a woman, I believe it's much easier to just sublimate those 'good vibrations' into dancing better, and noone (including your partner) is any the wiser.
fascination
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welcome to df consuela
Consuela
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EvertooLate
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Hi everybody, very old post that started on 2007 but I must say I'm very grateful for the girl that forts post it and for the person who answered both men (thank you , really for being honest) an d women. BUT I really wan to thank the guy who said that a man making you feel it is deliberate and who clarifies then what options we may have.
It was the only very open post i found about it.
I say may have though...
here it is, No it's not about being young as a man. discovering tango, I have made happy progresses the past few months. Thing is, I am confortable with close embrace, it helps being connected with your partner. However, i started to experience feeling men arrousal! not really knowing what to do with it. I do intent to create space. thing is, contrary to what has been said, I'm 50, i don't look like according to most, but it is so, and men who have done that are anwhere between 40 to 70... yes!
so many have actually together with me slighty step back, however, as I said, I'm a beginner, and when a labelled teacher have really made all he could to make me feel it as I believe I was managing not to badly to avoid, well, I didn't know how to react. I do not kindly smile, bur I did not even consider the person afterward. But that was the case that made me look up to some answer. Thing is (sorry for some) I don't really care on a common basis, I mean, if I have no first connection with someone, an erection might really not be the best approach to me! I'm like, "and so what" . So someone said he could be a gnetleman and take his chance. Well even for me who doesn't really care, I don't think it's appropriate, so I don't believe it a gentle way!
Anyhow, if there is still some person to answer, my wonder is what is the point of such an approach, what is expected! is that just a statement like "i wan tto have s..." ?? and dot?
I did not leave nor took a larger distance because suddenly despite my tries there was a bold statement, in someone really overweighing me of experience and weight and strength to keep a certain embrace to rehold it, to performe some figures that require contacts when performed by others this same figures remained just beautiful.
so I just think I won't say yes to that one another time, but I won't break the whole thing either in such a close community as we are here. but well yes, this one made me uncomfortable I think precisely because I didn't feel so heard in the distance I had taken, on the opposit the more I reacted the more he showed!
when another time we had a gente talk and the man did prove to be agentleman...so here it is...
thanks all.
It was the only very open post i found about it.
I say may have though...
here it is, No it's not about being young as a man. discovering tango, I have made happy progresses the past few months. Thing is, I am confortable with close embrace, it helps being connected with your partner. However, i started to experience feeling men arrousal! not really knowing what to do with it. I do intent to create space. thing is, contrary to what has been said, I'm 50, i don't look like according to most, but it is so, and men who have done that are anwhere between 40 to 70... yes!
so many have actually together with me slighty step back, however, as I said, I'm a beginner, and when a labelled teacher have really made all he could to make me feel it as I believe I was managing not to badly to avoid, well, I didn't know how to react. I do not kindly smile, bur I did not even consider the person afterward. But that was the case that made me look up to some answer. Thing is (sorry for some) I don't really care on a common basis, I mean, if I have no first connection with someone, an erection might really not be the best approach to me! I'm like, "and so what" . So someone said he could be a gnetleman and take his chance. Well even for me who doesn't really care, I don't think it's appropriate, so I don't believe it a gentle way!
Anyhow, if there is still some person to answer, my wonder is what is the point of such an approach, what is expected! is that just a statement like "i wan tto have s..." ?? and dot?
I did not leave nor took a larger distance because suddenly despite my tries there was a bold statement, in someone really overweighing me of experience and weight and strength to keep a certain embrace to rehold it, to performe some figures that require contacts when performed by others this same figures remained just beautiful.
so I just think I won't say yes to that one another time, but I won't break the whole thing either in such a close community as we are here. but well yes, this one made me uncomfortable I think precisely because I didn't feel so heard in the distance I had taken, on the opposit the more I reacted the more he showed!
when another time we had a gente talk and the man did prove to be agentleman...so here it is...
thanks all.
EvertooLate
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I do not get arroused, but I can be very mooved, or I can feel like if I already had an orgasm, like full contempment, or like no place on earth, somewhere in the emotional worl of the other, but just perfect. And that's just even better! but it's such an emotional state it took me some time to just learn to give assurance to my partner I was very fine and happy with the dance indeed!
opendoor
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Seems you've landed in the wrong subforum. Tango is danced in an Argentinian hold (abrazo), just look at my profile picture. I think it's unlikely that such distances can be bridged easily by accident. It's different in English and international tango, where people touch each other exactly there, while the upper bodies are kept as far apart as possible.
That is wrong. Take a step backwards without losing contact with the sternum. You just have to get into a tilted position.
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EvertooLate
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wll that's what we dance here argentinan tango exclusively with people coming and having learned back there! and yep the woman stand up right but not so right so we should only have 3-4 contact points: palm, left arm (for follower)- leader hand in your back, piece of pecho, and piece of head, easiest part to move back when you don't agree and usually leaders understand it right away... but well, yes that hand in the back can become an arm for certain figures even in a caminata if the leader is tall and maybe you dance it for so long that your not conscious of that anymore.... it's automatic..
opendoor
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You said it very well, EvertooLate. We are all just humans and human reactions that do not hurt anyone physically nor psychologically should be welcome.
Unfortunately, I found tango so demanding from the very start that I (leader) was never able to experience erotic moments while dancing. Nevertheless, tango was an excellent opportunity for erotic adventures for me. But all of that was away from the dance floor.
Turning the question around: Can ladies (with some threshold of experience) not easily tell the difference between a gent who participates in physical contact in service of the dance, and a "gent" who participates in physical contact in service of prurient interest?
From a gent's side, I can see the first handful of encounters for a beginner being overwhelming in a number of ways, including the manifestation contemplated by this thread. Still, I have to agree with the prior post that once the physical circumstances become familiar and focus settles on the technical details of correct dancing, the risk of an incident with a serious dancer is drastically reduced. It's not totally eliminated, but presumably for infrequent subsequent cases a technical skill set permits some adjustment to the regions of contact and/or a social skill set permits a gracious opportunity for reset.
I recall a long-ago DF thread (on the ballroom side) in which I learned the acronym "ABG" for "accidental boob grab". The ladies commenting there gave the strong (and reassuring) impression that they were entirely able to distinguish between true happenstance and deliberately-inappropriate touching. (Incidentally, there is a whole set of replies in the thread I linked about cod pieces, dance belts, cups, socks...)
I also scratch my head at the original post in this thread a little more than I did when I first noticed it:
From a gent's side, I can see the first handful of encounters for a beginner being overwhelming in a number of ways, including the manifestation contemplated by this thread. Still, I have to agree with the prior post that once the physical circumstances become familiar and focus settles on the technical details of correct dancing, the risk of an incident with a serious dancer is drastically reduced. It's not totally eliminated, but presumably for infrequent subsequent cases a technical skill set permits some adjustment to the regions of contact and/or a social skill set permits a gracious opportunity for reset.
I recall a long-ago DF thread (on the ballroom side) in which I learned the acronym "ABG" for "accidental boob grab". The ladies commenting there gave the strong (and reassuring) impression that they were entirely able to distinguish between true happenstance and deliberately-inappropriate touching. (Incidentally, there is a whole set of replies in the thread I linked about cod pieces, dance belts, cups, socks...)
I also scratch my head at the original post in this thread a little more than I did when I first noticed it:
- On the ballroom (International Standard) side, waist-level contact is "normal/necessary" and other-than-incidental chest contact is "scandalous". (For certain pairings, some degree of chest contact might turn out to be both incidental and unavoidable, but it never has the same character as close-embrace AT.)
- From my brief forays into AT, my sense is that things are exactly vice-versa there: chest contact is "normal/necessary" but other-than-incidental waist-level contact is "scandalous". No? Though, it is significant for this topic, that in Standard the hold is quite laterally offset, whereas my (again, limited) AT experience suggests that a close embrace has shoulders and sternums pretty square to each other, without much lateral displacement -- and therfore I suppose hips must be fairly centered as well, even though contact is not intended there.
I need to point out that members have made complaints about some posts on this thread, and I have in fact deleted at least one.
In my personal opinion (other mods may disagree), discussion on how to deal with physical reactions as it relates to dance is ok as long as it is not salacious.
But please make sure it stays relevant to dance.
Ah, I see. I did try to stay within bounds, while pointing out how broad the bounds have been here, historically. I did not know about old nor recent complaints, however. Thank you for mentioning them; I will bear that in mind.