Social Dancing - People Who Ignore You at the Start

Because you havent shared a floor with a quorum of determined ones. In small numbers they are fine, even fun to interact with. But get enough, toss in a few student student couples blindly crashing through novice routines all on top of a full traditional social crowd, and its not an enjoyable environment to dance in, at least not without someone you can trust to respond instantly and help you navigate.

So perhaps the solution is to ask these few student types and dance with them, and guide them towards better floorcrafting. Takes care of two issues at once. :bouncy:
 
Or maybe they could learn to dance without their precious routines (literally) getting in the way.
 
You are welcome to your personal opinion, but the net effect of trying to impose it as a standard on others can be readily seen - socials are attended mostly by beginners and intermediates, with truly advanced dancers being fairly rare unless they are working or looking for business.

not sure what advanced dancers in attendance have to do with my comment, versus intermediate dancers, for example. and it's not a standard i wish to impose on anyone. but it is certainly an attitude that is beneficial for anyone to generally adopt...
 
I think it's the big sister in me, but being rude to me isn't nearly the problem for me as if you're mean to someone I care about. My dance instructor is one of THE women to dance with in Atlanta. There are a couple of snooty men that she refuses, not because they're rude to her, but because they're rude to beginner ladies. I like that attitude. I'm far from as in demand as she is, but my husband is quite in demand. (Decent dancer, polite, and kind of cute too.) If you're a woman that I see being mean or rude to a newbie, I have the power to take you off of his dance card. And I WILL use that power.

hah... good one.

hey, what goes around comes around. there will never be a substitute for graciousness and generosity.
 
not sure what advanced dancers in attendance have to do with my comment, versus intermediate dancers, for example.

Your comment is an example of the kind of implied obligation attitude which helps keep advanced dancers away.

and it's not a standard i wish to impose on anyone. but it is certainly an attitude that is beneficial for anyone to generally adopt...

You don't wish to impose it, but you are certain... certain based on what? What factors did you weigh in your certain analysis?
 
Seriously, this ought to be posted up on plaques in every ballroom. :)
Thanks. :p
As to the other main line of discussion on this thread, a social dance is a place for social dancing. Not for instruction. For a lot of us, it's why we take the lessons, so we can have more fun dancing socially. And if a beginner isn't dancing socially, I don't know how they are ever going to learn lead or follow.
 
... because a social is of course the only setting in which a leader might be in the habit of varying or improvising on a whim or to play off someone else's unexpected movement...
 
You don't wish to impose it, but you are certain... certain based on what? What factors did you weigh in your certain analysis?
Watch it sam, there's only one person here that gets to be certain about every single thing that's typed on their keyboard, and sounds like you might be stepping on their toes...
 
I'm trying to understand some of the statements I'm reading from those of the opinion that "advanced" dancers should feel no guilt about avoiding newbie cooties.

1) Do beginners have a place at social dances?

2) Would an obligation to dance one dance in ten with a beginner be enough to keep you from going to a particular social dance?

These are of course purely hypothetical questions. If someone is willing to answer yes to the second, I'm prepared to just let it go, because I can't bridge that gap.
 
I'm trying to understand some of the statements I'm reading from those of the opinion that "advanced" dancers should feel no guilt about avoiding newbie cooties.

1) Do beginners have a place at social dances?

2) Would an obligation to dance one dance in ten with a beginner be enough to keep you from going to a particular social dance?

These are of course purely hypothetical questions. If someone is willing to answer yes to the second, I'm prepared to just let it go, because I can't bridge that gap.

1. Yes, definitely.
2. Personally -- I like dancing with beginners, and I like that people danced with me when I was a beginner. And, I think that folks should spend some time dancing with people less experienced than themselves (how could things work, otherwise?). But if there were an actual obligatory number set down somewhere, I'd probably balk.
 
I'm trying to understand some of the statements I'm reading from those of the opinion that "advanced" dancers should feel no guilt about avoiding newbie cooties.

I don't think it's like that at all. I think the point was that given an option of dancing with a newbie versus dancing with someone at a similar level, the "advanced" dancers would choose to dance with those of a similar level because it's more fun. And that in such a case, it's simply a matter of personal enjoyment and not deliberate snobbery or avoidance of newbies.
 

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