How many adornos do you need?

larrynla

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Figures are a man's game. Women need adornos to add to the figures to express themselves, to become equal partners in the dance.

What do you suggest?

Laer
 
Larry, I'm surprised to see you post this. There are lots of ways for women to become "more equal".
Is this a gambit for people to discuss them (again? but never all that well because it isn't often taught and takes better dancers and men who accept it but really skillful women who do it without the men knowing they are doing it?)
 
topics of especial interest to women

Larry, I'm surprised to see you post this. There are lots of ways for women to become "more equal".
Is this a gambit for people to discuss them (again? but never all that well because it isn't often taught and takes better dancers and men who accept it but really skillful women who do it without the men knowing they are doing it?)

Going back to March I don't see any threads devoted to women's ways of dancing, much less ways for women to become "more equal." If there were any posts relating to this they were all embedded inside other topics.

Surely it's not too strange to introduce a topic of especial interest to women?


Laer Carroll
 
Figures are a man's game. Women need adornos to add to the figures to express themselves, to become equal partners in the dance.

What do you suggest?

Laer

Uh-hum! Correction: Figures are a "Leader's" game. (On behalf of all those wonderful lady leaders out there;)). And adornos can be used by both leader and follower.
 
Figures are a man's game. Women need adornos to add to the figures to express themselves, to become equal partners in the dance.

What do you suggest?

Laer

They need to know all the Jennifer's adornos, plus their own adornos. And then, one figure by the man, one adorno, another figure, another adorno, and so on.
 
Thanks!

Uh-hum! Correction: Figures are a "Leader's" game. (On behalf of all those wonderful lady leaders out there;)). And adornos can be used by both leader and follower.

I kneel, humbly accepting your correction, shame vivid upon my face.

Thanks!
 
.. Women need adornos to ...

uuuups !? wrong thread ? or open to leaders, too ? I need 6.

-a very slow Lapis with a countermove in the sholder,
-Tapping with the soles (can´t remember the spanish term actually),
-Tapping with the heals, if it won´t go on,
-Tapping with the toes, if a woman is going to steal my show,
-an energetic backX in the sandwich,
-and fine Rulos within the turns.

WR
OD
 
Adornos aren't necessary in social tango

I don't add embellishments/adornos or whatever you want to call them. They aren't necessary in tango. They are used in stage choreography.

When you think about what you want to do with your feet, you can't dance what you feel in the music. There is no connection. Then what's the point? Your partner can't see what you're doing anyway. Are you trying to please an audience or your partner when you dance?
 
.. you can't dance what you feel in the music.

Hi jantango, I think I can. Tapping comes with the rhythm, and with the music. When doing a Lapis, or Sandwich you look to your partner, and this is a strong expression of passion and gesture.

OD
 
When you think about what you want to do with your feet, you can't dance what you feel in the music. There is no connection. Then what's the point? Your partner can't see what you're doing anyway. Are you trying to please an audience or your partner when you dance?
I'm trying to please myself when I do them. It can add to my connection to the music.
 
don't add embellishments

I don't add embellishments/adornos or whatever you want to call them. They aren't necessary in tango. They are used in stage choreography.

When you think about what you want to do with your feet, you can't dance what you feel in the music. There is no connection. Then what's the point? Your partner can't see what you're doing anyway. Are you trying to please an audience or your partner when you dance?

Bravo Jan
If it's one thing I hate It's to be in the moment and WHAM she adds an embellishment. I believe that when tango is danced well the leader will be skilled enough to show off the follower by executing the figures and allowing her to retain her balance and axis. That's all she needs to dance and look good. By adding adornos it takes away from the flow of the lead. My partner uses adornos when she dances with other less skillful leaders but when she dances with me there's no need to embellish. If I invite someone to dance and she turns out to be a embellish freak...Thank you after one dance...
 
Are you trying to please an audience or your partner when you dance?

Then same question could be posed to the person seated on a stool at a bar and they tapping their fingers/bobbing their head/knocking their foot against the side to the thumping beats of a particular track that's being played which they like. Who are they trying to please when they do this? The barstaff? Their fellow drinkers?
 
If it's one thing I hate It's to be in the moment and WHAM she adds an embellishment. I believe that when tango is danced well the leader will be skilled enough to show off the follower by executing the figures and allowing her to retain her balance and axis.

You say you hate her adding an embellishment. Figures or bellishments. What's the difference? Your leading her to perform, say, a front ocho could be just as annoying for her could it not. Perhaps all she wants to do is walk back and side step.

.. By adding adornos it takes away from the flow of the lead.

Give me an example
 
I don't add embellishments/adornos or whatever you want to call them. They aren't necessary in tango. They are used in stage choreography.

When you think about what you want to do with your feet, you can't dance what you feel in the music. There is no connection. Then what's the point? Your partner can't see what you're doing anyway. Are you trying to please an audience or your partner when you dance?

Bravo Jan
If it's one thing I hate It's to be in the moment and WHAM she adds an embellishment. I believe that when tango is danced well the leader will be skilled enough to show off the follower by executing the figures and allowing her to retain her balance and axis. That's all she needs to dance and look good. By adding adornos it takes away from the flow of the lead. My partner uses adornos when she dances with other less skillful leaders but when she dances with me there's no need to embellish. If I invite someone to dance and she turns out to be a embellish freak...Thank you after one dance...


I disagree. :)

Badly executed embellishments will disturb the lead, go against the music, hit other couples on the floor, etc.

Embellishments are the follow's opportunity to contribute to the conversation... without changing the subject or interrupting the lead. It makes no difference to the lead if I immediately collect on a back ocho, or beat my foot across my ankle before collecting to complete the back ocho.
 

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