Why Do Dancers Smoke?

Peaches said:
If we assume that having all smokers flat-out quit is not an option...is there any-bloody-thing that us smokers could do to actually get the griping to stop?

That's actually somewhat ironic: Just as making all smokers quit is not an option, the same goes for griping about smoking. Both are unatainable extremes. ;)
 
hepcat said:
That's actually somewhat ironic: Just as making all smokers quit is not an option, the same goes for griping about smoking. Both are unatainable extremes. ;)

Fair point.

However, from what I've seen on this thread, no reasonable amount of accomodation and consideration is ever enough. Instead, for whatever reason, smoking in any way/shape/form seems to have become a licensce for rude behavior that would not be tolerated under any other circumstance. In fact, new and more extreme ways of being rude seem to be applauded.

Smoke isn't the only smell that clings to people--curry and garlic (even if not eaten the same day with some people) come to mind. Would anyone be expected to tolerate being sprayed down with hideous "perfume" if that was the lingering smell? Of course not. (For that matter, hideous perfume lingers as well.)

From the posts on this thread, reasonable accomodation is quite evidently not enough. So why should I or anyone else even bother trying? Simple answer: we shouldn't. Being unhappy about it is one thing--being outright rude is quite another.
 
I'm actually not rude to smokers. I wish they'd quit for their own sake. I've seen someone die a long, painful death from smoking. It's heartbreaking to see. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. My father has emphysema now. All preventable.

I've only pointed out what I find rude....people who smoke and turn their head and discharge the smoke at me because they don't want to "sit" in it, and people who chuck their butts out the car window because they don't want to mess up their car (as if the smell alone doesn't do that).
 
mamboqueen said:
I'm actually not rude to smokers. I wish they'd quit for their own sake. I've seen someone die a long, painful death from smoking. It's heartbreaking to see. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. My father has emphysema now. All preventable.

I've only pointed out what I find rude....people who smoke and turn their head and discharge the smoke at me because they don't want to "sit" in it, and people who chuck their butts out the car window because they don't want to mess up their car (as if the smell alone doesn't do that).

MQ, I wasn't thinking about you when I wrote. I had other posts/posters in mind, as well as the what seems to be the prevailing attitude of non-smokers.

And, yeah, I've watched someone die a painful death from smoking. I know what I'm doing to myself. And I know it's preventable. But for whatever reason, I'm not ready to quit yet. I'm not physically addicted yet, luckily, but still not ready.
 
mamboqueen said:
Well, Peaches...I hope some day you're able to quit. I truly mean that.

That makes 2 of us.

I've quit 2 or 3 times before, and lasted for a few months each time. They say it takes smokers an average of 7 times to try quitting before it "sticks"...

I think I feel another quit coming on in the next few months anyway--it's been a year.
 
I smoked for about 2 years in my early 20's. One day I was driving and I dropped the cigarette and while almost driving into a tree, my rug started smouldering because it took me a few minutes to find the damned thing. That was it for me. Tree + fire = time to quit.
 
The funny thing is, I actually don't know what it's from. I just grew up with my father saying it. I knew he was quoting something, but to this day I don't have a clue what it was.
 
Peaches said:
MQ, I wasn't thinking about you when I wrote. I had other posts/posters in mind, as well as the what seems to be the prevailing attitude of non-smokers.

And, yeah, I've watched someone die a painful death from smoking. I know what I'm doing to myself. And I know it's preventable. But for whatever reason, I'm not ready to quit yet. I'm not physically addicted yet, luckily, but still not ready.
I know how much you love your husband....I dont know if you have kids....but consider (very, very hard) the likelihood not just of the time you are taking off of your own life but the possibly decades that you may be deprieving them of having you and all of the significant events that you may not be there for...sometimes unselfish people like you who just can't quit for themselves actually can quit for people like their future children and grandchildren...just a thought... I wish you luck...as someone who has lost a parent far too young to lung cancer last month, I grieve every day what my mother is missing...you are such a sweet sensitive person Peaches, I really wish you good luck on this...it is an addiction... a STRONG one, and there is a point beyond which some folks just can't quit...and a point beyond which they aren't given a chance...and that point can come with little to no warning...at any age...and then it doesn't matter whether you are ready or not....hugs
 

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