Creative Visualization

tangomonkey

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Well, the forum has not been very active recently. So here's a question. Has anyone used visualization exercises to help improve their tango dancing?

I have been playing tango tracks, closing my eyes and imagining myself dancing. Sometimes I consciously try to control my movements, and my partner's response, and other times I just let it flow. At first visualizing was very hard to do but the more I do it the better I get.

Just wondering if anyone else does this.

PS My first post on the forum described a disastrous dance I had. That dance left me feeling like I should just quit tango. But thanks to some helpfull comments from members here I kept at it. Anyway, at a milonga the other day, after the first dance of the tanda, my partner looked me in the eye and said "you are a good dancer." WOW!!!
 
It can be done if a leader knows how to lead properly, not patterns.

Certain time must pass and skills should be acquired so that leader can actually hear the music and anticipate how follower should move.

I saw my first teacher doing it in the breaks during the hour.
I later did it, and now I do it when practicing by myself.
 
dont know if its creative visualization...but I suggest to my class leaders to imagine they're matadors or cowboys in a shootout ( the bit before the firing begins!)
and for ladies to imagine they are taking a fridge backwards downstairs....

had one Dutch teacher suggest we step like different animals...went a bit lead balloonish
 
No, usually I just make small little motions when I car dance. Or I dance by myself around the house.
 
playing tango tracks, closing my eyes and imagining myself dancing...

Hi tm, don´t know if it´s down to the fact, that my english is so "rough", or that you have got a different concept of visualization? I use visualization if I would work on a choreo and would try to imagine how it would look like.

Dancing alone in my flat, I do very often, indeed. But without any imagination. I move along with the music, only stepping, stopping, rulos. No picture of me and a dancepartner in my mind´s eye.
 
Hey, I do that as well! Good to know that I'm not crazy. The problem, I find, is that it doesn't translate into real dancing that much. Somehow, I started doing that expecting to open my eyes and go "I know kung-fu" (or milonga, rather) like Neo in The Matrix.
It does help me to get ideas on musicality though.
 
I've used poles to practice combinations I already know, and to work out new ideas. It helped me gain a better mental understanding of the follower's role.

Polish women make great followers............ and give you emotional undestanding as well. they want to be led a bloke*




* technical term for "un Hombre"
 
Has anyone used visualization exercises

You mean, you imagine that you are dancing? Without actually moving?
Because from the replies it looks more like dancing alone.

The closest experience of visualization tango was when sleeping with the 2x4 (radio tango) stream on. This makes me dream about tango. But I am not dancing well in my dreams.
 
Well, the forum has not been very active recently. So here's a question. Has anyone used visualization exercises to help improve their tango dancing?

I have been playing tango tracks, closing my eyes and imagining myself dancing. Sometimes I consciously try to control my movements, and my partner's response, and other times I just let it flow. At first visualizing was very hard to do but the more I do it the better I get.

Just wondering if anyone else does this.

PS My first post on the forum described a disastrous dance I had. That dance left me feeling like I should just quit tango. But thanks to some helpfull comments from members here I kept at it. Anyway, at a milonga the other day, after the first dance of the tanda, my partner looked me in the eye and said "you are a good dancer." WOW!!!

I've done this listening to music since I was little, way before I ever started dancing. I find it very natural. It's not really imagining how it looks from the outside but how it feels on the inside (whether it takes on a specific form or not), although sometimes specific lines and effects with the music pop out at me.

I think people who don't do this naturally can learn a lot from making it a habit. It encourages an active participation in the music even when you're not moving, which I think helps develop musicality.

I've used visualization exercises/instructions in classes and have seen them help tremendously, especially with quality of movement, maintaining energy through pauses, and smoothing out acceleration/deceleration. Imagining you're a jungle cat is a good one and a common one in helping with the walk, for example. The thing about this is it enables you to make so many minute adjustments across your entire body in a way that isn't possible all at once with conscious control. When you intellectualize something, oftentimes the physical change looks and feels very contrived and false. Visualization - when it strikes a chord with someone - can really help them to "feel" it in their bodies instead of just knowing that it should happen. I think visualization taps into our more primal learning center and prevents over-intellectualization.
 
@Joy: makes sense...


Out of curiosity I spent some time with Google Scholar reading studies and abstracts. There are a great many studies concluding imagery and visualization in sports has positive real, measurable results. Visualization/imagery is used to supplement the activity, and it must be done consistently and regularly to be beneficial. It's that "measuarable results" part that makes it difficult to scientifically test the value of visualization in dance. There are relatively few dance studies - mostly ballet and modern dance. Lot's of books though that claim the benefits in dance. Eric Franklin has written several highly regarded ones, including "Dance Imagery for Technique and Performance".

As far I as I know, all these studies and books look at individuals. Can social dancers in an embrace (closed or open) benefit from visualization/imagery? From my own, limited, experience I say absolutely. Sometimes I try and visualize as many elements as possible - the music, my partner's contact, the surroundings, and other couples on the floor - and "dance". Other times I work on more specific things - technique, walking, steps, posture - with/without a partner. I see improvement in my technique, lead, musicality, improvisation, and confidence on the dance floor. OK, yes, my baseline was low - things could only get better! :) If I could physically practice with a variety of partners an hour or two every day plus go to a couple milongas a week, I would. Being able to visualize almost anywhere, any time, is a handy alternative.
 
Creative visualization. Interesting concept more applicable to structured ballroom dance than Argentine Tango. It is certainly useful should the intent be the development and execution of a choreographed dance routine. It is possibly useful in early teaching. Rather useless in the dynamic context of an Argentine Tango at a crowded milonga. How would you ever creatively visualize the infinitely variable?
 
Creative visualization. Interesting concept more applicable to structured ballroom dance than Argentine Tango. It is certainly useful should the intent be the development and execution of a choreographed dance routine.

The studies I've read look ALMOST exclusively at ballet, modern dance, and jazz. (There are some survey-type studies with a mix of dance styles, ballrom, latin, salsa, Highland dancing, etc...) For sure, there is a great deal of choreography in these forms, but there is also a large improvisational element in some of them.

There is no evidence (as far as I know) in the scientific literature to support visualization as beneficial for social dancers in an embrace. That's because the studies haven't been done - probably too hard to set up a study of social dancers and quantitatively measure improvement (or not). It is much easier to engage a few pro dance companies and university dance departments than several hundred part time social dancers. It would be a fun study to do though! Along the format of one study I read: Each dancer was filmed at the start of the study, then again after a period of time (3 months?) of deliberate imaging. Qualified judges then reviewed both films (but not always in the actual order they were recorded!). The judges’ scores/comments were processed with a battery of statistical analysis to quantitatively measure changes for each dancer.

It is possibly useful in early teaching.

Useful from day one and throughout one's dancing life. The survey-type studies found the better, most experienced dancers, visualize and use imagery the most.

Rather useless in the dynamic context of an Argentine Tango at a crowded milonga.

Maybe, but not necessarily. Time will tell...for me

How would you ever creatively visualize the infinitely variable?

The studies show the most effective way to benefit is make the visualization as real as possible. Draw on past experience: recall sights, sounds, surroundings, the embrace, walking, turning, etc., etc., etc… By utilizing your past physical experiences and sensations, consciously control, manipulate, and improve them while visualizing dancing. Studies say to layer the visualization.

Here's what I've been doing to practice dancing in a milonga, when I can’t actually be there:

1) I imagine being in my favourite milonga hall. It is empty except for me. I see the tables, the stage, the exits, the walls and windows. The lighting is dim and there is tango music (I either turn on my tango playlist or hear it in my head from memory)

2) I am still alone. I get the beat, do a few weight transfers in place then step. I dance, taking simple steps, concentrating on posture and my walk. I hear the music. I move in the line of dance. I navigate the corners. I see my surroundings and myself moving within them.

3) I add a follower. Is she short, tall, or my height? I choose one. We embrace. I concentrate on how that feels. I lead some weight transfer in place. We dance. I now become more aware of leading and my follower’s responses. I hear the music and navigate us in the line of dance.

4) I add other couples. Not distinct bodies and faces – more of an impression that they are all around me. I don’t try to control their movement; just let them move around the floor with no direction from me.

Sounds bizarre and “new agey”? Yah, I know. That’s why I went to academic, peer-reviewed studies (whenever possible) instead of blogs and books. I want the science not the hype and marketing. (No doubt there are good blogs and books too.) One often-cited study of sports-related activities concluded there is a "FUNCTIONAL EQUIVALENCE" between imagery and physical practice. Most studies conclude there is a benefit to deliberate imaging, as there is to deliberate physical practice. So why not take advantage of the findings?

Anyone who’s interested in the research should start with Jennifer Cumming. She seems to be the academic, scientific, expert on imagery in dance. Read her work and follow up on her references and citations. Some studies are available free, others require a subscription. Any university prof. or student likely has free access to the journals.
 

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