Is social tango "art"

tangomonkey said:
"Argue who's better than who" - really? Not so. In the field of aesthetics philosophers ask and attempt answers to questions of what is beauty and what is art and how such things are perceived and judged. There are university courses and degrees granted. Discussion is valid. Consensus is difficult.

Anyway, definitions don't matter. I will continue to dance AT until I can no longer walk.
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granted, but its only a folk dance........
 
bordertangoman said:
granted, but its only a folk dance........
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Our beloved folk dance is getting noticed in academia...

[Tango-L] Call for Papers/Presentations for a Tango Academic Conference

Tango360T 2011 CONFERENCE THEMES
For 2011, the Tango360T conference will have four main themes:

- "Tango as an Academic Pursuit" - Can one expect to soon see Argentine
Tango as an undergraduate degree program at the University level in the
United States? What progress is being made? What would such a program look
like? Can we develop a consensus on what to include? What to discard? Are
there existing historical models of a "street art" becoming "academically
respectable"? Is such respectability even desirable?

The rest is here http://pythia.uoregon.edu/~llynch/Tango-L/2006/msg13122.html
 
tangomonkey said:
Our beloved folk dance is getting noticed in academia...

[Tango-L] Call for Papers/Presentations for a Tango Academic Conference

Tango360T 2011 CONFERENCE THEMES
For 2011, the Tango360T conference will have four main themes:

- "Tango as an Academic Pursuit" - Can one expect to soon see Argentine
Tango as an undergraduate degree program at the University level in the
United States? What progress is being made? What would such a program look
like? Can we develop a consensus on what to include? What to discard? Are
there existing historical models of a "street art" becoming "academically
respectable"? Is such respectability even desirable?

The rest is here http://pythia.uoregon.edu/~llynch/Tango-L/2006/msg13122.html
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thanks I liked this aspect

"Tango: the Shadow Side" - For all the pleasure that many of us draw from
tango, why are so many tango aficionados so unhappy so much of the time?
Does tango make you meaner and less compassionate, or the opposite - or
both? Is tango actually a fantastic tool for exploring and coming to grips
with the shadow side within each of us, whether or not we see such a quest
in spiritual terms? What level of responsibility for their "shadow side"
would it be useful to expect of ourselves and our fellow tango aficionados?
 
tangomonkey said:
Our beloved folk dance is getting noticed in academia...

[Tango-L] Call for Papers/Presentations for a Tango Academic Conference

Tango360T 2011 CONFERENCE THEMES
For 2011, the Tango360T conference will have four main themes:

- "Tango as an Academic Pursuit" - Can one expect to soon see Argentine
Tango as an undergraduate degree program at the University level in the
United States? What progress is being made? What would such a program look
like? Can we develop a consensus on what to include? What to discard? Are
there existing historical models of a "street art" becoming "academically
respectable"? Is such respectability even desirable?

The rest is here http://pythia.uoregon.edu/~llynch/Tango-L/2006/msg13122.html
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Here is the link to the conference/festival page.

http://www.danceoftheheart.com/Tango360Experience2011.htm
 
tangomonkey said:
Dance is a performing art. The OP asked if social tango is art. Add "Social tango" to the start of that quote and it sounds more than a bit hyperbolic.
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I disagree... social tango is also life itself.. maybe even more so. Performance dance is much more of an abstraction.
 
Zoopsia59 said:
I disagree... social tango is also life itself.. maybe even more so. Performance dance is much more of an abstraction.
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Perhaps so, and I have no real opposing view. Its the hyperbole I dislike. No one thing (to me) is "life itself". I love dancing, listening and talking about tango music but it is not my life. It is an important part of my life but it is far from "life itself".

I don't think we are that far apart...
 
Zoopsia59 said:
Sure.. except that part about dance being/not being life.
For me it is.
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OK.

Dance is something I do to music I like. Music, if anything could possibly be "life itself", is that for me. The dancing is a very big plus, but the music comes first for me. If I don't enjoy the music the dance will suffer, suffer badly. There are many pieces I will not dance to - at least at this point in time. Perhaps that is a limitation. I think it goes a long way towards explaining our difference of opinion.

And let's not attempt defining what "life itself" means........................................
 
tangomonkey said:
OK.
If I don't enjoy the music the dance will suffer, suffer badly. There are many pieces I will not dance to - at least at this point in time. Perhaps that is a limitation. I think it goes a long way towards explaining our difference of opinion.
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I can dance to almost anything... (that's not to say I can TANGO to anything). And the few things that don't make good dance music, usually do make good skating music. I have given up ever having music playing while I do anything, because I immediately just want to stop what I'm doing and start moving to it (or start "choreographing" in my head if I can't get up)
 
Zoopsia59 said:
I can dance to almost anything... (that's not to say I can TANGO to anything). And the few things that don't make good dance music, usually do make good skating music. I have given up ever having music playing while I do anything, because I immediately just want to stop what I'm doing and start moving to it (or start "choreographing" in my head if I can't get up)
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:cool: You are lucky.
 
tangomonkey said:
:cool: You are lucky.
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Zoops - On the way to my lesson tonight I was thinking about what you said about not being able to stand still when you hear music. You are a dancer; I am a musician who dances.

I made little progress until I realized I had to seriously study the repertoire, know a great many pieces inside out. I dance best to music I have internalized that way. And my followers have noticed a change. In those moments when everything is going well, I feel like a dancer. They are becoming more frequent :D
 
tangomonkey said:
Zoops - On the way to my lesson tonight I was thinking about what you said about not being able to stand still when you hear music. You are a dancer; I am a musician who dances.

I made little progress until I realized I had to seriously study the repertoire, know a great many pieces inside out. I dance best to music I have internalized that way. And my followers have noticed a change. In those moments when everything is going well, I feel like a dancer. They are becoming more frequent :D
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As for me, I made very little progress until I learned how to dance.

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