Real Salsa Dancers, Players, and Sexy Moves

tacad

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I went to another salsa club last Thursday. This time in LA (not the local place from a couple of weeks ago). A beginning class was taught by Alex DaSilva. He taught a few sexy moves. Like moving her hand toward her head than carresing her hair. Or standing in front of her
with her hands on my chest and sliding down to my waist. Or me standing behind her, raising her hands above her head and bringing them down to her shoulders, then reaching around her stomach (still behind her) and spinning her out.

Then I think of a couple of salseros I know (Carl is one of them, tsb) who are really good. They don't seem to do these types of moves but are very good and interesting to watch. They work with the steps and styling but no chest touching by the girls, no hair carressing for the guys. They look more like Sabor in that dancing video.

I guess I'm asking if moves such as I described above are the norm? Is DaSilva possibly just using these sexy moves to get us hooked on salsa? Do these moves lead to africana's statement in another thread that salsero equals player? (I have to admit the experience was fairly stimulating. This time I was prepared, though, and was a perfect gentleman. But brrr!
And with time the effect will be less, of course.) Do 'real dancers' do these moves? You know. The guys who are really there to dance. Do they do these moves?

So any comments?
 
tacad said:
Then I think of a couple of salseros I know (Carl is one of them, tsb) who are really good.

Karl with a "K".

and he plays chess, too! (grandmaster & ranked in the top 5 in the state)
 
Well I don't mind if anyone does such moves with me. I think they increase the sensuality and playfullness (depending on person) of Salsa dance. Just that I expect RESPECT... no sleaziness...
 
I was led to do all the moves you mentioned above. They are not done very commonly but I'm fine with it as long as it's done with an attitude (cool, not unsure, playfully done but no sleaziness please! and yes it does matter who's doing those moves like Squirrel said).
 
it depends Tacad.. its al good and depends on the mood.. thats one of the cool things about this dance that i like.. the variety of emotion and its expression.. there is no standard but u set your own.. and u could do that differently with every lady u dance with if u feel it..

in the clip u refer to.. it was how i dance with this just one girl.. i'm different with others as much as they differ from each other .. and yes.. sometimes it gets mucho hot :lol: (u like that dont u :twisted: ) LOL but as those above replied it depends on chemistry and how u do it.. que no? 8)
 
For me i don"t like forced or cookie cutter dancing,learning sexy moves and trying as they used to say(mack daddy jive girls) is not where its at.of course salsa can be very sexy and sometimes i roll with that,i dance different with different types of ladies similar to what sabor said. i"ve taught a salsa class or 2 in princeton and many other places and some folks just don't look good trying to force sexy moves etc..(the line sex sells is still true.Im Latin(Italian) and we feel salsa and may types of music deeply,but people really need to get over too much puff and stuff,two weeks ago i went to a salsa dance that had a cuban band and it was so organic, the music, the sense of this dance, was different than any other salsa night i was ever at,it was great-it was funny/sad, to see salseros doing there same style dancin to cuban music,hence cookie cutter i saw girls putting sexy moves they learned in music that so clearly was not giving you that type of sabor.
 
the music states what is to be done... as others have mentioned I tend to dance different from girl to girl, more so, style of music...

The sexy moves look out of place with a hardcore Ray Barretto, bang away, hold me back there is a flight about to take off from a fighter jet plane, kind of song. (La Pelota Like)

However, I use a million and one sexy moves to, let say, salsa romantica from the 80s. Songs such as Viti Ruiz's Caricias Prohibidas...

The use of the hands, even without the move being "sexy" can be extrememly sensual, hence creates a "not sexy" move into a sexy move, even the way you look at the girl while doing a "not so sexy" move creates a mood that makes the move sexy...

In Sabor's clip, the song actually allowed for the very style he was dancing. Had he danced the song differntly he could have looked out of place...
 
everybody is talking about sabor's clip.......... :?: whereisitiwanttoseeittootellmewhereicanfinditgivemealink!! :wink:
 
the more intimate the move, the more i expect to already have some knowledge of the leader before being led into it. i don't think too highly of leaders who will get all up on me the first time we dance.
 
Da Silva has his own trademark salsa style, it is a lot of fun to watch. I wouldn't recommend doing his moves while starting out in social dancings though.
 
I was so unsure last week that I kept asking the women if they minded if I did these sexy moves that I just learned. :lol: They all said fine. They're probably used to DaSiva's moves in this club as he teaches there regularly. Especially with me being a beginner. But if I go somewhere else I will trust my instincts I guess.

Thanks again everybody!
 
alemana said:
the more intimate the move, the more i expect to already have some knowledge of the leader before being led into it. i don't think too highly of leaders who will get all up on me the first time we dance.

How about towards the end of the dance? :wink: :)
 

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