(Adult) Competitor Development Club...

Chris Stratton

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There's been another round of discussion recently about the participation of ballroom competitiors who started training for competition only in adulthood. While that's centered largely on debate over how to sustain things at the upper levels, my own belief is that one of the primary causes for limited participation by adult start dancers is the relative lack of entry-level recruiting. Dancing is dfficult, demanding, and not everyone will decide to stay with it, so graduating reasonably numbers of dancers to the upper level requires making the basic opportunity as broadly available as possible.

Unfortunataly, outside of a few settings, opportunities for adults to walk in off the street and start seriously training for amateur competition are limited, and those opportunities that do exist are not widely known. Worse, many who do find a path to some progress end up pursuing it as the lone serious couple in their circle, or worse, as frustrated individuals in settings with poor leader/follower balance.

There is however one fairly succesful example of large scale recruiting for amateur ballroom competitions: each year, collegiate ballroom teams introduce a few thousand undergraduates, graduate students, and assorted older university staff to the joy of social ballroom dancing, and also the possibility of ballroom competition. They not only introduce the possibility, they efficiently develop it, putting a few hundred brand new couples on the floor in beginner competitions events after a month or two of total training. In short, they prove that with a supportive environment, amateur competition , surrounded by a thriving social dance community, really can be open to the general public.

Granted, collegiate teams enjoy some advantages, such as having a lot of active, single younger adults in close proximity, easier access to workable floor space, a pre-existing sense of community, and often some seed funding. But these are only advantages - a loose association of post-collegiate adults should also be able to work together to gain some of the same advantages of learning in the context of a peer group.

The problem is that we've been waiting for the studios to create it for us.

It's not that ballroom studios are unable to play host to amateur competitors (many of us virtually live in one after all), but that recruiting and developing a regional community of adult ballroom competitors is not usually their primary business focus. More advanced dancers benefit from being able to seek out a variety of expert teachers with competing ideas, but the range of choices may see beginners divided into many little pockets, each too small to build a real community effect and each unkown to (or even suspiciously regarded by) the others.

So I've been thinking of trying to start an informal recruiting / development group to promote the idea that ballroom competition, and ballroom dance in general, are practical pursuits for adults.

Some thoughts on possibly goals:

- Hold interactive practice events with a focus on welcoming new dancers, interaction between dancers of different levels, and of course networking between possible partners. Not a competitors practice in that it would be open to unpartnered dancers, not a group class in that there would be no formal program, and not a social or runthrough in that stopping to discuss the details is encouraged - but rather a combination of a bit of all of those things.

- Organize lectures / masterclasses by leading local ballroom teachers on core subjects, perhaps host visting teachers from out of town. Often there's a lot of expertise available, but it's mostly available in private lessons and at rare special events. Give teachers a forum to put their expertise on display; we benefit, and they probably get some private lesson bookings.

- Group outings - to socials further afield (or even just a group deciding to attend a given local one some weekend), trips to competitions

- Dance suport networking... who's selling a costume, who's trying to sew one, who needs to find a day job so they can move here, whatever...

Some concerns:

- Too much organziational structure too soon is not necessarily worthwhile. Also, political neturality may be easier to maintain as a loose association rather than a formal one. Informal cooperation with USA Dance chapters may be easier than formalized chapter functions, though that of course remains an option.

- Implicit assumption that many involved will also have loyalties to studios, as alumni of college teams, to particular coaches, etc - the idea is not to replace those resources, but to provide the context of larger group for the times when a smaller circle of association is too limited.
 
The problem is that we've been waiting for the studios to create it for us.
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So I've been thinking of trying to start an informal recruiting / development group to promote the idea that ballroom competition, and ballroom dance in general, are practical pursuits for adults.
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- Hold interactive practice events with a focus on welcoming new dancers, interaction between dancers of different levels, and of course networking between possible partners. Not a competitors practice in that it would be open to unpartnered dancers, not a group class in that there would be no formal program, and not a social or runthrough in that stopping to discuss the details is encouraged - but rather a combination of a bit of all of those things.

- Organize lectures / masterclasses by leading local ballroom teachers on core subjects, perhaps host visting teachers from out of town.

- Group outings - to socials further afield (or even just a group deciding to attend a given local one some weekend), trips to competitions

- Dance suport networking... whose selling a costume, who is trying to sew one, who needs to find a day job so they can move here, whatever...

i think these are excellent ideas, and i applaud your desire to be pro-active. this is something i would be very interested in...
 
I think that sort of thing might work if the area you're in is sufficiently densely populated. Part of the problem in my area is that it does not have a lot of people to begin with (let's say roughly 150K if we count several nearby cities, otherwise just 100K), so attempts to promote dancing to the community as a whole haven't been all that successful. It's been 2 full years since we organized a USA Dance chapter, and we have gained maybe 5 new members each year, bringing the total to a great big number of 50 persons. Second problem is that it is too far from big cities, so there are typically no takers for field trips. I can see your suggestions working someplace like Long Island, or NJ, though.
 
yah, the ny/nj area has plenty of drawbacks, but i'll give it snaps for its ballroom population...
 
It's been 2 full years since we organized a USA Dance chapter, and we have gained maybe 5 new members each year

I don't know about your chapter, but my impression is that typical chapter efforts leave too many critical parts of the recruiting, encouraging, guiding, and facilitating to be accomplished by studios which do not usually advertise the kinds of programs that would be needed to develop amateur-amateur dancing.
As a result, the chapter gets a fraction of the relatively isolated studio populations, instead of having an interconnected dance community of individuals who then pick various studios for the resources they offer.

My experience, starting with a collegiate team and association with a studios almost at the same time, was that the studio teachers were very important, but I wouldn't have made it very far without the college team as a setting to tie it all together and present amateur competition as an option.
 
I would love to see this kind of idea develop. I live in Orange County California. We have a lot of people! Most are only into dancing because of dancing with the starts and want to learn flashy stuff and thats it. Not really into it for the comps and the actual aspect of the dancing. :-( Wish I had some people to pratcice with
 
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Apparently, this is not an issue that we are ready to discuss. Or maybe this was off subject. Sorry if anyone was offended.
 
I don't know about your chapter, but my impression is that typical chapter efforts leave too many critical parts of the recruiting, encouraging, guiding, and facilitating to be accomplished by studios which do not usually advertise the kinds of programs that would be needed to develop amateur-amateur dancing.
As a result, the chapter gets a fraction of the relatively isolated studio populations, instead of having an interconnected dance community of individuals who then pick various studios for the resources they offer.

My experience, starting with a collegiate team and association with a studios almost at the same time, was that the studio teachers were very important, but I wouldn't have made it very far without the college team as a setting to tie it all together and present amateur competition as an option.

Chris, we only have one ballroom dance studio in town. I hope I am wrong, but my feeling is that it is barely making any profit. I personally would not feel comfortable setting up events which will compete with it for business, because if we lose that, we will lose the only place with a decent dance floor, and will have to drive 45 minutes one way. And promoting dancing at town events tends to bring in married couples completely new to dancing and just looking for something new to do. I think some of them at least got beginner pacakge at the studio later on or came to some of their group classes, but even those who did, didn't stick with it. And usually if I talk to new people and hear something like "My wife/husband made me come", those couples usually don't come back.
 
I think its a good idea, and yes its something that can likely only work in larger cities, at least to begin with.

I know two studios in up in New England have tried to go this route -- ie more of a competitor co-op/practice space/master class arranger. One had to quickly evolve to a more traditional studio environment. The other is still in flux, but is a little too far away from the Boston center-of-mass for the desired synergy/support.

I have a feeling that the DC people would have a lot of comments on a similar, but less official system. Their whole "DC United" ballroom group, from my understanding its primarily a cross-collegiate support/social/resource pooling group. As a result of having a group to identify with that's larger than the individual teams, and that is welcoming of alums/non-affiliates, from what I hear its a studio-agnostic support group. I don't know if they arrange/sponsor/etc any technique/master/special classes to help beginning-mid-level non-collegiates though. I do now they they help to coordinate travel/lodging/etc trips to comps, etc
 
To try to address some of the previous posts together, I'd first point out that amateur comeptition is not going to be for everyone, and there's no need to push it on everyone or even treat it as the only way to approach ballroom. But it will be an activity for a fraction of the population, or at least it could be if they chance upon a practical path of entry. There are always going to be many settings promoting dancing in a way that is not a practical path of entry - either out of a lack of competence, or simply because a studio quite legitimately wants to concentrate on a different segment of the market.

I'm not so concerned with saddling up and trying to topple every windmill in sight, but I would like to see more networking within the amateur community, so that the practical entries to amateur competition, and the peer support necessary to sustain it, are not entirely overshadowed by the other faces of the business. Certainly studios vary in terms of what they have to offer, but even the those with a lot to offer in terms of instruction often cannot offer a large enough community to match up prospective amateur competitors with partners, or peer group of couples advancing towards higher levels. To do that requires a more regional footprint - but since the studios already exist, and are supporting the students who are making progress, anything regional in scope needs to be compatible with the studios that are useful to amateur competitors, rather than in competition or opposition to them - a loose umbrella association seems more suitable than starting yet another studio.
 
Very much less official. "DC United" doesn't really exist outside of soccer as far as I know, other than for the occasional team match. It's true that the different college clubs in the area collaborate on some things. And many post-collegiate dancers don't really have a home studio. But other than that, I don't think this "united" thing is as developed as it may appear.
 
To some extent, a lot of DF regulars with collegiate backgrounds already have the benefit of the kind of networking I'm talking about... true, it would be nice to have more of it. But one of the big differences is that we have connections, and the knowledge for navigating the dance world that they bring, wheras new adult dancers who, if they were starting as college students might turn competitor, will as unaffiliated adults probably not find their way into even the kind of network resources that we already have. If we could change that, it would make a big difference for adults without a collegiate dance background... even if it didn't directly do much for those of us with one.
 

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