Argentine Waltz - on the spot or circular?

I don't think anyone seeing tango vals would find much similarity with Viennese waltz.
 
Joe said:
I don't think anyone seeing tango vals would find much similarity with Viennese waltz.
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I stand to be corrected but the reason they are considered similar is due to the music. Typically both have around 180 bpm, 3 beats to the bar and a similar type of flowing melody

Why they look different is because in VW typically you dance each beat whereas in Vals you dance just the one beat although you do dance occasionally on the 1,2 or 1,3 or 1,2,3 beats.
 
Think the tempo of the argentine vals may vary, but mostly lies between the WV and the Boston. But the main difference between argentine and viennese waltz is the rhythm, VW goes like a clockwork, in argentine (and american = Boston) waltz the melody is in the foreground.
 
Vals Crusada, as I call it, is normally around 210-220, sometimes as slow as 190. Those are killer tempos if you're trying to do VW.
 
ant said:
I stand to be corrected but the reason they are considered similar is due to the music. Typically both have around 180 bpm, 3 beats to the bar and a similar type of flowing melody

Why they look different is because in VW typically you dance each beat whereas in Vals you dance just the one beat although you do dance occasionally on the 1,2 or 1,3 or 1,2,3 beats.
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You will note that I said seeing and not hearing...
 
Joe said:
You will note that I said seeing and not hearing...
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Sorry.

I took your question to be more general than it was intended. I agree that they do not look alike as some comparisons may suggest. However it has always been my understanding the positive comparison between the two dances related to the music only.
 
ant said:
Why they look different is because in VW typically you dance each beat whereas in Vals you dance just the one beat although you do dance occasionally on the 1,2 or 1,3 or 1,2,3 beats.
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AndaBien said:
Vals Crusada, as I call it, is normally around 210-220, sometimes as slow as 190. Those are killer tempos if you're trying to do VW.
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And, this is, in actuality, incorrect in many circles. VW should not always be danced on each beat as it is often too fast. It should take 3 measures to complete one left cross and one back closed change, for ex. But, that's another thread. :confused: Sorry for the hi-jack. Back to VC.
 
Re: .. as I call it

AndaBien said:
Vals Crusada, as I call it, is normally...
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Hi AndaBien, I chose Argentine Waltz (or Vals Argentino) to underline the indepedence of this dance (because I don´t like the term Tangovals. Crusada on the other hand means mixed with Tango). The two other argentine waltz styles (...that I know) already have their own names (i.e. Chamamé and Chotis).

OD
 
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