bordertangoman
Well-Known Member
true, but if you apply the same principle to the dances you have, then one dance would not be better than another
AT Competition - How Should We Judge the Dancers
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true, but if you apply the same principle to the dances you have, then one dance would not be better than another
Dave Bailey
Active Member
All dance competitions violate the spirit of social dancing.
Dance competitions are all exercises in showing off to an external viewer, none of them are about dancing well with your partner.
bordertangoman
Well-Known Member
Thanks for everyone's responding. I will not try to make comments on your posts. I learned things from them. There are a lot to be learned about AT.
we're in a time loop....we need The Doctor
nucat78
Active Member
Same here. I think the sorting function of the database is not working right.
Weird... the post I just made says it was posted an hour ago and is not at the bottom
bordertangoman
Well-Known Member
we're in a time loop....we need The Doctor
tangomonkey
Active Member
Um, what is happening? Posts which quote another post are appearing above the original post, not at the end of the thread.
Dave Bailey
Active Member
Urgh, timey-wimey wibbly-wobbly... well, I'll give it a go...
AT is not dancesport. In fact, social dancing as a whole is not dancesport.
So just because you may have read some other person or people post that sort of hippie nonsense, don't take that to mean that everyone here (or even a majority) agree with it.
It's perfectly possible to judge someone's ability at social dancing:
1/ Play an unknown track (more precisely, a track they've not rehearsed to)
2/ Get them to dance with an unknown partner
Then judge them on their performance - for example, to show if they have true musicality, or just good choreography.
See? Easy.
Dancesport is a different discipline to dancing.
AT is not dancesport. In fact, social dancing as a whole is not dancesport.
If you're dancing in a known location, to a known track, with a known partner, it's difficult to tell if something is "dancing well with one's partner" or "has rehearsed really well".
I certainly don't write anything so silly. Sounds like rubbish to me.
So just because you may have read some other person or people post that sort of hippie nonsense, don't take that to mean that everyone here (or even a majority) agree with it.
As I disagree with the first proposition, the conclusion is also invalid.
It's perfectly possible to judge someone's ability at social dancing:
1/ Play an unknown track (more precisely, a track they've not rehearsed to)
2/ Get them to dance with an unknown partner
Then judge them on their performance - for example, to show if they have true musicality, or just good choreography.
See? Easy.
Dave Bailey
Active Member
Argh, my post is migrating upwards. Get back here gosh darnit! 
That's a very interesting expression.
I guess competition is one way to give people an idea about what AT should be like.
There is another way, too. That is to dance with beginners. I am fortunate enough to have the opportunity to dance with experienced leaders. Our local tango community is fortunate enough to have leaders who are willing to give some of their time to the inexperienced at the milongas.
opendoor
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It´s all about the quality of the movement and the connection here, which is (admittedly indeed) difficult to see from the outside position.
nucat78
Active Member
DF is testing out the Source Code. Anyway...
I agree but isn't that why it's called Dance Sport?
I'd argue that one would not do well in competition if one did not dance well with one's partner - the clutziness would be apparent.
My point was that people here write about AT being a "feeling" , a "90-second soul connection" with "no syllabus", a "philosophy of life". Ok, fair enough, but how exactly does one judge that without reducing it to quantifiable elements like a syllabus? You open the lid to the box and the cat dies, yes?
I agree but isn't that why it's called Dance Sport?
I'd argue that one would not do well in competition if one did not dance well with one's partner - the clutziness would be apparent.
My point was that people here write about AT being a "feeling" , a "90-second soul connection" with "no syllabus", a "philosophy of life". Ok, fair enough, but how exactly does one judge that without reducing it to quantifiable elements like a syllabus? You open the lid to the box and the cat dies, yes?