Atlanta man flying with untreatable TB

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If he had the strain but was told he was not contagious, there was no reason for him not to travel.

If there is a small risk, the reason they are putting this on world wide news etc is because some people who already have a compromised immune system my have been exposed. TB is one of the biggest killers of people with HIV/AIDS out side of Western and Northern Europe and it is also found a lot in the elderly. I think it's perfectly right that they alert people who may have been put at risk.

I also got the impression that some people were implying that he may have caught infection from/because of his father in laws work. I think that is extremeley unlikely and not something that can justifably claimed. Security in infectious disease research centres is incredibly high. When they are dealing with super viriulent forms of infectious agents they are literally dealing with life and death. I have never heard of any kind of "leak" or "escape". "hey isn't it weird how that guy who works in cancer research's mother has just developed cancer" TB is actually a big research area and there are literally thousands of people who work on it just in Northern America and Europe.
 
spectator said:
"If there is a small risk, the reason they are putting this on world wide news etc is because some people who already have a compromised immune system my have been exposed. TB is one of the biggest killers of people with HIV/AIDS out side of Western and Northern Europe and it is also found a lot in the elderly. I think it's perfectly right that they alert people who may have been put at risk."
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yes, that will be a most eloquently stated & reasonable argument used to promote digitally controlled records & IDs, eventually...

to me it's a**-backwards thinking as far as a long-term solution, tho. but all the money & control comes from focusing on that direction, not on investing in a culture that promotes true health.

where i work, there was a new drug recently released for a disease that comes from infection by an african insect... now that it's released, i'm wondering how long it'll be before a movement for awareness of this disease becomes apparent in the media... you know the kind, always under the guise of some well-intended health campaign... but the truth is, for this drug to be successful, it requires many people to become infected by the insect... the same story gets told again & again... and feeds right into the whole fear/contagion hysteria that probly has hardly begun to see the light of day in modern times.

anyway... that's what comes to mind when i hear of a story that's hyped like this, because the manipulation by fear leading to an eventual shift in societal controls is all part of the same story...

man, someone musta taken my old soapbox outa storage! :)
 
samina said:
my thoughts are that the publicity is the point... there is an agenda to have a "war on contagious diseases" just like the "war on terror", with significant controls put into place which undermine privacy, freedom, personal sovereignty, that whole thing. the objective is to have all medical records attached to individual ID#s chipped in some fashion (on cards, for now...), enabling centralized control.

the first step toward that is always to incite fear.

to my mind, for an individual reading of this story, focusing on one's personal responsibility to maintain a healthy immune & belief systems always strikes me as far more productive. going into fear-mode is a lose-lose scenario...

meh... i know i'm always in the minority on this one... lol
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He has an extreme case of antibiotic resistance though. It's hard enough to treat TB as is. Especially in TB prone areas like Atlanta. When you've got to be on antibiotics for 6+ months. And the antibiotics make you feel like crap. This stuff gets around, it's not me I'm worried about. My immune system is a mack truck. It's people with compromised immune systems that HAVE to have antibiotics to get rid of disease because their immune system can't.
This guy KNEW he had TB and yet he goes around willy-nilly risking infection to countless other people. I call in sick when I have strep throat so I don't get my coworkers and patients sick. That's the responsible thing to do. And strep is easily treatable. You can bet your bippy that I'm not going to risk KILLING someone with an extremely drug resistant strain of TB like this self-centered SOB.
 
samina said:
to me it's a**-backwards thinking as far as a long-term solution, tho. but all the money & control comes from focusing on that direction, not on investing in a culture that promotes true health.
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It's great wishing we were in a world that just had to promote true health. I'm all about health promotion. But the fact remains, plain old boring TB is a pain in the butt to get rid of. Months and months of antibiotics that make you feel anything but healthy. I'm not overly scared of TB. One of my instructors back in school told us how he gave mouth-to-mouth CPR to a guy with active TB and never tested positive himself. It's hard to get. But you don't put others in peril and say, "Well, if they have a healthy lifestyle, they shouldn't catch it anyway." I could have the healthiest lifestyle around, but if I have HIV or any auto-immune disease, I'm on chemo, whatever, I'm still at risk. TB is a dangerous disease, and it's increasing drug-resistance makes it even more dangerous. Health promotion is great, but not everyone is lucky enough to be able to have a healthy immune system, and having them end up at risk because some guy just HAD to go on his honeymoon is idiotic.
 
wooh said:
Health promotion is great, but not everyone is lucky enough to be able to have a healthy immune system, and having them end up at risk because some guy just HAD to go on his honeymoon is idiotic.
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I feel bad for the people who flew with him. Some of them have already said that they have been alienated in their towns and colleges because people dont want to be in the same room with them for fear of catching it from them.
 
samina said:
where i work, there was a new drug recently released for a disease that comes from infection by an african insect... now that it's released, i'm wondering how long it'll be before a movement for awareness of this disease becomes apparent in the media... you know the kind, always under the guise of some well-intended health campaign... but the truth is, for this drug to be successful, it requires many people to become infected by the insect... the same story gets told again & again... and feeds right into the whole fear/contagion hysteria that probly has hardly begun to see the light of day in modern times.
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Are you often tired? Do you ever feel nauseous? Does your nose get stuffed? If so, you should ask your doctor about x new drug. You may be suffering from y obscure disease, and should see your doctor immediately to get a prescription for x.

(This is obviously a much better plan of attack than getting a good night's rest, quitting the fast food, and vaccuuming your house. Remember: your discomfort is not your fault.)
 
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