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Mario7

Mario7

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OK..I'm saying that either no one is taking risks or no one is talking about it. Let's go guys and girls..be vulnerable...talk about the mystery that is now enveloping you in Tangooooolandia!!:ladiesma::bandit::artsy:
 
OK..I'm facinated by stuff that can be done at the cruzada or right at the point of the cross in the 'walk to the cross'. Here are two examples of one such alternative and a sophisticated one at that.
Eduardo Masci (in the 12 to 16 seconds of the beginning of this dance), sends the woman to his open side and brings her back in place of the straight cruzada.
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..And in this dance, Jorge Firpo ( 10 to 15 secs. in) does the same but much more assertively and adds a sexy Ocho Cortado to finish it off.
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..my question is in the first part of the move..
getting the woman to go out to her side and swing back...wow, what sort
of super advanced technique is required?? Any insight would be appreciated..
..also, I think that it's more than a coincidence that both masters use this
figure early in their dance.
 
Mario7 said:
.....my question is in the first part of the move.. getting the woman to go out to her side and swing back...wow, what sort of super advanced technique is required?? Any insight would be appreciated..

..also, I think that it's more than a coincidence that both masters use this figure early in their dance.
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It's a crusada, but led fairly wide, so the cross lands away from the weight-bearing foot, instead of nearby. The lead creates that variation. Both crusadas are followed by a fwd-8 toward the woman's R.

It requires a good lead, but I don't consider it to be particularly advanced or extraordinary. In no time at all you'll be doing those moves.
 
Mario7 said:
OK..I'm facinated by stuff that can be done at the cruzada or right at the point of the cross in the 'walk to the cross'. Here are two examples of one such alternative and a sophisticated one at that.
Eduardo Masci (in the 12 to 16 seconds of the beginning of this dance), sends the woman to his open side and brings her back in place of the straight cruzada. <video>

..And in this dance, Jorge Firpo ( 10 to 15 secs. in) does the same but much more assertively and adds a sexy Ocho Cortado to finish it off.
<video>

..my question is in the first part of the move..
getting the woman to go out to her side and swing back...wow, what sort
of super advanced technique is required?? Any insight would be appreciated..
..also, I think that it's more than a coincidence that both masters use this
figure early in their dance.
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From my point of view. It was quite simple. He led her to a cruzada... Then (using his upper body for input) stopped her at the cruzada and led a forward ocho, which leads to opportunity to do an ocho cortado.
 
Ampster said:
From my point of view. It was quite simple. He led her to a cruzada... Then (using his upper body for input) stopped her at the cruzada and led a forward ocho, which leads to opportunity to do an ocho cortado.
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OK, I see him turning her to his open side as he steps to the cruzada.
They don't seem to stop at any point unless you mean that they don't progress to the walk. Anyway, moving the woman all the way left and then having her turn back (front cross) with momentum, takes a very strong lead...one that I've never done. Both men are not simply stopping at the cruzada but leading the woman past it in a whip like motion...at least it looks that way. I will try walking thru it with no arms in my next practice session. :headwall:
 
Mario7 said:
OK, I see him turning her to his open side as he steps to the cruzada.
They don't seem to stop at any point unless you mean that they don't progress to the walk. Anyway, moving the woman all the way left and then having her turn back (front cross) with momentum, takes a very strong lead...one that I've never done. Both men are not simply stopping at the cruzada but leading the woman past it in a whip like motion...at least it looks that way. I will try walking thru it with no arms in my next practice session. :headwall:
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Mario,

The stops I'm talking about are not done with steps. Rather, their partners feel the slowing down, the stopping, and impending direction change by lead using their "Centers" with resolve. One way that I've communicated things like these to my partners is by using "Micro leads" to clarify my intentions.
 
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