Cabeceo and Other "Rules"

I'd also say at the moment to actually check vaccine/test status rather than health theatre, or say you're not bothering.
Oh, that, now, sure. Many of the local milongas now require everyone to be vaccinated and have received a booster shot. There's also an online form for reporting your status, which is now shared by several milongas to make things easier. Of course, you need to provide proof of vaccination. But once on the list, you're good to go at all of those venues.
 
For me the function of the host is to make sure everything is running smoothly. Greeting, seating, entertaining are not something i would expect from them. Or are host and organizer for you two different people?

If the host is somebody im friends with, id expect less attention from them on their own milonga than on a milonga where we are both guests. I assume they have more things to do.
 
For me hosting is part of the work of the organizing team. They run the event on the night, make any announcements, greet the attendees, take care of all the problems that occur behind the scenes, run set up, close down and generally maintain the atmosphere. When I am hosting I don't have time to babysit. I usually prefer to work in a team so that we can share the burden and dance with attendees - when my health isn't great I take the door greeting job.

As I said before tango dancers are a fussy bunch. Years ago I would occasionally help out at different nights and the things tango dancers asked for and complained about never come up in other dances! "The lights are too bright" is one I've never heard at swing or salsa or blues or any other dance event. A really nice (and free) venue had too many stairs. Somebody always decrees the floor too sticky and pours talc (I always check the floors during set up so I know the floor isn't too anything). One of the teachers didn't dance with me - they're guests at the event and can dance with whoever they like! The homemade cakes aren't vegan - don't eat them then!
 
Or are host and organizer for you two different people?
Depends on the size of the event. One of our milongas was in a village hall, maybe 40-50 attendees. The organiser/host puts out some tables and chairs early. A DJ is booked. The same person greets at the door and takes payment. If there's insufficient tables/chairs when you arrive, you go and get your own. Everyone who's left at the end helps clear up. Apparently we could all pay extra to have tables/chairs put out and cleared away + room cleaned.

It doesn't have an organising committee to assign roles, but obviously that would be required for larger groups and gatherings.


Aargh, talc. Get some proper dance floor powder (but not TOO much) if it's really needed. We recently had a dance lesson after the room had been used for a wake. Far too much drink spilt on the floor and they hadn't cleaned it thoroughly. Took ages to clean shoes afterwards. Apparently they got the industrial floor cleaner out after complaints.


tango dancers are a fussy bunch
Yes, it's that time to talk whilst missing cabeceo and consequent tandas.
 
village hall, maybe 40-50 attendees.
How much was attendance? for €400 in takings you get a room, a few chairs and tables, my friend's playlists from her laptop, the fancy tablecloths, battery operated "candles", tips for the bar staff and about €50 left over for the slush fund.
 
For me hosting is part of the work of the organizing team. They run the event on the night, make any announcements, greet the attendees, take care of all the problems that occur behind the scenes, run set up, close down and generally maintain the atmosphere.
Yes, that's my definition of "host" as well.

At the event I mainly worked, the organizer had a non-staff person well known to the community (a pretty, well-dressed, extroverted tango performer who knew everyone, spoke six or seven languages, etc.) to greet people, make sure everybody who wanted a seat got one, signaled to me for who got what complimentary drinks from the bar, etc. She was very intelligent and had business degrees . . . this was strictly a "fun" gig for her. So, she knew how to make things money-making as well as fun.

That's a host. The organizer was somebody else, who sometimes hosted but mostly didn't want the task. There were nights were the organizer didn't leave her office, while the woman out front ran things with the aid of the door person (collecting money and keeping track of the departures and returns of those who paid), the DJ, and the barman (me).
"The lights are too bright" is one I've never heard at swing or salsa or blues or any other dance event.
Yes, tango people seem obsessed with dimly lit environments . . . then have the gall to grumble about how the cabeceo doesn't work. One place where I like to dance is always bright, and I greatly prefer that, as it makes invitations much simpler.
 
Depends on the size of the event.
Yes. We were usually five:
  1. organizer
  2. host
  3. door person
  4. DJ
  5. barman
On busy nights, we were more numerous . . . add the organizer's assistant and a second bartender. On New Year's Eve, I needed a staff behind the bar to pour 200-odd glasses of bubbly in 10 minutes.
Aargh, talc. Get some proper dance floor powder (but not TOO much) if it's really needed.
Powder on the floor is just generally scary. Fortunately, most events here ban it completely, in all of its forms. A guy I know (someone who decided to call himself a "teacher" after four or five years of dance lessons) actually got blacklisted at one event, at least, for ignoring a powder ban.

To quote my teacher, "Powdering the floor is a sign of disrespect. Learning to dance on bad floors is part of learning to dance."
 
Yes that’s why the organisers tip the bar, if there is one, since they make next to nothing on sales.
Having worked the bar at many tango events, both weekly milongas and festivals: Tango people are poor tippers. Yet there's little or no money in tango to truly pay the bartender, who often is using the event's liquor permit but their own bar stock ("Hi, that was me!"). So, tips – call them what you like – are essential if you want bar service. A dance studio that has a dancer who tends bar isn't the same world as a full-time bar that happens to host tango some nights.
 
Yes. We were usually five:
  1. organizer
  2. host
  3. door person
  4. DJ
  5. barman
On busy nights, we were more numerous . . . add the organizer's assistant and a second bartender. On New Year's Eve, I needed a staff behind the bar to pour 200-odd glasses of bubbly in 10 minutes.

Powder on the floor is just generally scary. Fortunately, most events here ban it completely, in all of its forms. A guy I know (someone who decided to call himself a "teacher" after four or five years of dance lessons) actually got blacklisted at one event, at least, for ignoring a powder ban.

To quote my teacher, "Powdering the floor is a sign of disrespect. Learning to dance on bad floors is part of learning to dance."
We usually run things in a team of 6 or so. Rotating the jobs and relieving the door person. The 3 who set up don’t usually do the clean up but it’s flexible.
 
For €500 I’ll turn on the heating.
And I know you aren't joking! Where we ran our práctica, it got very hot in summer (upper-story loft in a built-up urban heat island), so there was an air conditioner. The owner turned it on for evening milongas that made enough money, but if we wanted to use it for our práctica on a warm afternoon, we had to pay extra rent.

Non-organizers tend to overlook these little details.
 
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We usually run things in a team of 6 or so. Rotating the jobs and relieving the door person. The 3 who set up don’t usually do the clean up but it’s flexible.
I found five workable, six preferable. But we didn't rotate roles . . . the organizer was very strict about who could handle money, so the door float and bar float were trusted to one person each. The DJ was a semi-pro, and never stepped away from their expensive sound equipment. With the organizer being the boss, that was four positions totally locked down. So, by default, the fifth person (host) was also locked down.

As for cleanup . . . yeah, well, that always fell upon the barman. The milonga ended at 3 a.m. I was in bed toward 5 or 6 a.m., and I lived 10 minutes away.
 

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