CBL on right side?

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PsychoSalsaGuy

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The Cross Body Lead is basically a move in which the lead steps aside and the follow travels past his left side. Correct?

There are moves that direct the follow to move across on the right side instead of the left. What would you call that? Is that also called a cross body lead? I've also heard of "right side cross." Sounds like it could be it, but I can't find any decent info on that, so I'm not positive. Is what I describe the right side cross or does it have a different name?
 
if you can do it then its a move of some sort.

the human body is bilateral so if there's a move in one direction then there has to be one in the other. whether or not you use that move is up to you.
 
Well, actually. The body is bilateral, but closed position isn't. And salsa basic isn't bilateral, it's radially symetrical. So the right side move has to be different than the CBL.

I'm looking for a name of the move here. Is there one?
 
PsychoSalsaGuy said:
The Cross Body Lead is basically a move in which the lead steps aside and the follow travels past his left side. Correct?
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Yes!

There are moves that direct the follow to move across on the right side instead of the left. What would you call that? Is that also called a cross body lead? I've also heard of "right side cross." Sounds like it could be it, but I can't find any decent info on that, so I'm not positive. Is what I describe the right side cross or does it have a different name?
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I've never heard that term before, but hey, lots of stuff/terminology in salsa isn't (and probably will never be) standardized.
 
PsychoSalsaGuy said:
Well, actually. The body is bilateral, but closed position isn't. And salsa basic isn't bilateral, it's radially symetrical. So the right side move has to be different than the CBL.
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ok...so its not exactly the same but if you can go one way then you can go the other.

i off the top of my head can think of 3 moves that go to the mans right side... the more i think about it the more moves i come up with. i'm sure one of them could be classified as a "right side CBL".

there are also CBL's where the ma... lead goes past the follow.
 
Ok. So I was told by a new teacher that ANY move that takes the follow across the lead's body is a cross body lead, no matter which side this happens. Doesn't seem right to me. I know of cross body leads in other dances (like waltz) and they all seem to be similar to the classic CBL in salsa, so when this teacher demonstrated the whole pattern and said to do a cross body lead and he spun the girl past his right side, I got confused.

I'm asking because during class we'll learn a pattern and while we are practicing he will shout out the moves to remind us. He would say cross body lead and I would have to stop and think "does he mean "classic" CBL or right side?"
 
PsychoSalsaGuy said:
...so when this teacher demonstrated the whole pattern and said to do a cross body lead and he spun the girl past his right side, I got confused...
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Hmm...When I think of CBL, I think of it is as a simple change in direction. No spins or anything, just a change in direction. When you start adding spins then it becomes something like Cross Body Inside/Outside turn. You're still changing direction and its still a cross body lead but a slight change in terminology. Instead of saying Cross Body Lead, it should be Cross Body Inside Turn for example and clarification. Hope that helps.
 
PsychoSalsaGuy said:
dTas said:
there are also CBL's where the ma... lead goes past the follow.
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Hmm... Are there really? I can't even imagine this. Can you explain a bit more?
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well if you define the basic as 1, 2, 3-4, 5, 6, 7-8 where its L, R, L, R, L, R then the lead would do half a basic and with his R he would step past the follow on 5 to her right side and turn to face her on 6, 7-8.

or

after completing a basic the lead steps past the follow with the L on 1 facing the follow on 2, 3-4 and finishing with the 2nd half of the basic on 5, 6, 7-8.

a little raw in the explaination but the main idea should be there. did i make any sense? :?
 
DanceMentor said:
In ballroom dance, this is often referred to as a "Back Spot Turn".
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Well, I do back spot turns in Salsa too, but, well, I dance salsa in a slot and when I do the back spot turn the move runs around in a circle. Then I break back into the slot. The move I'm talking about is still in a slot. (There's also some funky and cool not your standard salsa lead footwork for the back spot turn. At least that's how I learned it.)

Interesting dTas I've never done those moves. I'll have to try them. What style do you dance?
 
PsychoSalsaGuy said:
Interesting dTas I've never done those moves. I'll have to try them. What style do you dance?
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you know... that's a good quesiton. i don't know exactly what style you would call it. unfortunately i first learned ballroom salsa but i've evolved beyond that. most of the time i'm on1 but sometimes i'm on2 depending on the song.

i don't dance in a slot, i'm all about circles.
 
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