Cobbler, stick to your Tango!

People that know each other will often invite directly in any case.
You will be surprised people have preferences on how they want to be invited. Also a lot of people you dance with fall in that middle ground you. You dance with them but don’t know them.
AT has this the wrong way around. Often I have to go inside to walk. Then the circulation on the inside is chaotic because people often cross over the middle, backtrack, or just decide to be stationary at any random location. There is a larger perimeter and better defined track on the outside, it should be the place for walking.
That’s what I meant. Walking should be on the outermost perimeter. Insides is for all other things.

When I started it was preached those who want to dance traditionally in the line of dance should be outside. Those who are new or want to dance more neuvo do so inside.

Inside depends on the size of milongas. Some have two lanes with enough space inside the second lane for third chaotic lane or dancers that want to moves that take up space.

I only seen a very few times organizer enforce the lane and ask those disrupting the flow to dance inside.
 
First thing non-tango women ask me when they know I dance tango is “is it true that you have to do that eye thing?”

Over the years it is almost the first question. And they think it is weird. There is a general perception about tango being snobby, where only old folks dance.
And there's one problem, but also...
Or those who want to walk less or dance on the spot, go in the inner circle.
Well, yet another (unwritten) codigo. I recollect that the inner lanes were reserved for the 'less experienced', so I guess that applies to nuevoo_O. Nowadays it seems 'reserved' for those who think they're 'better'.

The only logical solution is to use your follower's heels to cut him in half.
And here's a problem. Highly tempting though it is, the 'rules' are about showing respect to others, even when they're disrespectful.
 
..Which particular system? If you want to reject a system, why be there in the first place..
Tango as a whole is not rejected if you just don't want to take part in the mirada-cabeceo invitation system. The “eye thing” is not mandatory. I've been dancing longer than you and I still remember the time when there was no cabeceo.
 
..recollect that the inner lanes were reserved for the 'less experienced' ...Nowadays it seems 'reserved' for those who think they're 'better'..
The visibility is greater in the outer lane. So in the GA the experienced dancers danced outside. The inner lane and centre was for cuddling and kissing. Tango rather was a means to an end back then. I prefer the inner lane so that I can quickly enter the centre to perform wide moves. I strictly separate dancing from cuddling.
 
Tango as a whole is not rejected if you just don't want to take part in the mirada-cabeceo invitation system. The “eye thing” is not mandatory. I've been dancing longer than you and I still remember the time when there was no cabeceo.
The underlying problem is what social AT means to you. That's different if you live, and dance, in BsAs compared with elsewhere in the world. And each locale has its own view: what, if anything, does that BsAs' intangible cultural heritage mean to your AT experience? Is it just another dance, or do you add your perception of those codigos - from some book, or blog, or film, or what someone else told you, or your own, albeit limited as a foreigner, experiences in BsAs? What makes it social AT? If it's nuevo-like, with alternative music, an open abrazo, 2-dance tandas, etc, etc, is it 'AT'? OK, I know some who will insist that without those codigos (by which they usually mean cabeceo/mirada), then it can't possibly be AT. To be AT out of BsAs, we have to be miserable, have segregated seating, awful tango music, proper cortinas, appropriate dress (suits and white shirt for leaders). No female leaders and definitely no male followers! A walkaceo and you're shown the door! A verbal invite and you're banned forever! And let's not forget those moves - no cortes nor quebradas!
 
I only seen a very few times organizer enforce the lane and ask those disrupting the flow to dance inside.
One organizer of a local milonga has placed blue tape around the perimeter of the floor indicating the outer line-of-dance, and another for an inner-line-dance. During the announcements midway, he told the crowd "the lines are not arbitrary, they are THE LAW. Do not cross over the line into the neighboring line of dance." One woman was leading another woman rather erratically, crossing lanes, etc. During the tanda, he walked over and gave her a metaphorical yellow card, asking her to stay in her lane. Bravo. Generally, floorcraft at that milonga is quite good. It's one of the few milongas about which I can say that.
 
And here's a problem. Highly tempting though it is, the 'rules' are about showing respect to others, even when they're disrespectful.

I take a more aggressive approach — I will always extend courtesy and respect to any and every dancer on the floor, that is my default stance; but if they should refuse to show me respect, then I have no qualms about ruining their experience in the most exquisite and subtle of ways.
 
One organizer of a local milonga has placed blue tape around the perimeter of the floor indicating the outer line-of-dance, and another for an inner-line-dance.
The last time I recall that was towards the end of Covid when we were officially allowed to be within some distance (2m?) of another couple - and were concerned about being closed down. We all managed a progressive ronda moving from box to box.

It's a long time, certainly pre-covid, since I recall an organiser intervening about crossing lanes. I remember then being surprised how poor and unmanaged it was in London. I guess we've become accustomed to some poor floorcraft at busy milongas. Getting sufficient numbers to be viable at some, once very well attended milongas, is now the problem. Too many visiting Argentinians trying to take the business.
 
Walking should be on the outermost perimeter. Insides is for all other things.
I agree, but . . .
Those who are new [...] do so inside.
. . . the fact that this is known to be the case causes issues.

It may just be where I live, but many new people don't to want to be marked as new; consequently, they try to mask inexperience by dancing in the outside lane with the experienced dancers. They soon discover that when their teachers told them that the walk is the most important thing in tango, and that it takes a lifetime to master, it wasn't a lie: They have a mediocre-to-bad walk that they cannot calibrate to the speed of the ronda, causing them to tailgate or block the line of dance; they soon get frustrated and falter; and they end up disrupting the entire outside lane.

When I started tango in 2013, this problem was sufficiently prevalent here that beginners were taught to stay in the outside lane because "people dancing on just one side of you is easier to handle than people dancing on both sides of you." I've since realized that was a sneaky attempt to scare beginners out of all the lanes that weren't the outside one, and not really the way things should be.
Inside depends on the size of milongas. Some have two lanes with enough space inside the second lane for third chaotic lane or dancers that want to moves that take up space.
Here we most often get two real, (mostly) circulating lanes around a center big enough for maybe two or three couples to stay in place. Some large events have three full lanes around the center. A couple of very small places have two lanes and no meaningful center. The tricky bit is that the same people move from venue to venue and bring things that work at their "home" or preferred milonga to others where those things don't work.
I only seen a very few times organizer enforce the lane and ask those disrupting the flow to dance inside.
A couple of local organizers take time to mention the rules, but they don't enforce or follow them. They talk the talk but don't walk the walk.

I had an out-of-town friend here over the weekend and ended up doing a private "mini-marathon" with her. Lots of dancing, but it's getting warm and humid here, so lots of pauses to cool off, too. I noticed a few things that consistently caused traffic problems:

Dancers who start with their feet. They step and then displace their body; they don't displace and bring their feet along because they're attached. So, an unweighted foot gets stuck out way too far in advance of the movement while they almost lean backward over the weighted one. Looks like this. Uses up way too much space and causes them to advance jerkily and not smoothly.

Dancers who look at their feet. Meaning they're not looking where they're going. I saw two teachers doing this . . . Why?

Dancers who never abandoned the back step. I could kiss Julio Alvarez (current partner of Silvina Tse) for what he said at a workshop just over a week ago: "Traditionally this starts with a back step. But this is 2024, so we don't to that any more." And he didn't back step at the milonga. He walked the walk.

Dancers who offset their partner. Leaders and followers are equally to blame. Their partner is off to their right, so the leader is mostly visible on the open side and the follower is mostly visible on the "closed" side. The result is a couple that's 50%+ wider than it needs to be, which is a horror film in turns because it sweeps out this huge circle, half of it against the line of dance.

Dancers who turn in place. The leader has never learned to add a forward component to a turn, advancing the couple as they turn around each other. Yes, cadenas are hard, but simple walking, parallel-system turns moving forward were the first turns I was taught in tango. Are these not still taught?!?! The mini-version of this is the linear rather that circular ocho cortado – another thing Julio said we don't do in 2024, thank goodness.

You'd think "keep your partner in front of you, look ahead, move forward with all steps, advance your couple's center of mass and not just your feet" would be common sense, but it appears that it is not.

Obviously, I'm speaking of crowded milongas here. Do whatever you like at empty ones. But of course that's part of the problem when dancers from places with mostly empty milongas come to crowded ones. As noted above, people move from venue to venue and bring things that work at their "home" milonga with them. They don't adapt.
 

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