Cobbler, stick to your Tango!

[ArbeeNYC]

Almost everything is traceable these days except cash

All of my tango lessons, especially privates, have been in cash. Milongas are cash. Only a few events that accept prepayment are using digital means of payment. And a couple of milongas will now accept Venmo. Otherwise, it's cash on the barrelhead.

 

[ArbeeNYC]

I'd prefer to pay appropriate taxes and get the services we want. Sadly the UK seems to want to follow the US model - but without the private investments.

You have no idea how many small music venues we've lost here. Good ones, too. We have plenty of shiny, expensive apartment buildings though.

 

[ArbeeNYC]

I find it completely ridiculous that the taxman chases low-income artists (rather than Art Incorporated like, say, Bono or Michael Flatley).

In the US, they chase low-income individuals regardless of employment type. Why? Because it's so much easier to go after them. Very wealthy individuals and large corporations keep complex books, use shell companies, tax dodges, offshore accounts, legitimate deductions, and lots of lawyers. It costs time and money to go after them and they'll fight the IRS every step of the way. And those who benefit pay good money through lobbyists to keep it that way.

 

[TTanguero]

If your income is variable, the past 12 months is not a good indicator of the current year. A cliff would have been better for trigger. But does registering for VAT imply you add VAT from the very first transaction you do? What if your turnover falls below the threshold. Do you get refund on the VAT or govt gets to keep it? I assume the latter.

Once you are registered, you charge VAT from your registration date.

If you fall below the threshold in a 12-month period, you can apply to be de-registered.

 

[Tangogal]

I’ve quit tango many times. I became bored of the scene. I wasn’t learning anything from my teachers. I now know that some teachers deliberately hold back their students. It is misguided to think that every student wants to set up a rival school but I guess if it has happened once…

I took up other dances to learn more about dancing. I took up yoga to learn more about how my body can move. I almost took up gymnastics but I got injured.

I definitely feel that other dances have left an imprint on me.

Edit: my scene became quite toxic for a while. There was a lot of jealousy. Thankfully those toxic individuals have left.

 

[tangomaniac]

I'm interested in the question of whether the tango represents the end of your dance journey for you. I know, technically we can dedicate ourselves to tango the whole life. There is always something to improve, to deepen, and perfect. But does that also satisfy a tango dancer? Maybe more variety is needed on the dance floor? Ballroomers learn ten or more dances at the same time. Tango dancers usually focus on tango, sometimes they also excel in vals, milonga or chacarera.
Those of you who came to tango from salsa, ballroom, ballet, flamenco, or whatever, have you broken with your previous dances? Or are you still dancing with your first love every now and then? Those of you who first got on the dance floor through tango, are you getting tired of tango by chance? You might be starting to get annoyed by the rather limited corpus of canonical music. Or do you feel a strong desire to break out of the ronda, or do you no longer fit in with the community? What paths do you have in mind? Maybe through contact improvisation to modern dance? There are also ways of professionalization beyond tango, such as dance education, dance therapy, shoe sales or digitizing old records.
Is tango a final destination? Is it perhaps also the starting point to go on a journey of discovery again? To tell about myself, after 17 years of studying tango, I was increasingly dissatisfied. Tango was starting to bore me. I was realistic enough to realize that I lacked the physical presence to pursue the tango teacher path. I reduced my working hours and applied for general dance education. Unfortunately, an accident prevented me from completing this training. For many years I couldn't dance at all. So I can't say where my journey would have taken me. But maybe you can tell us about yourself?

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I started with ballroom and latin and later tango. I still dance ballroom and latin. When my tango improved, my ballroom and latin improved exponentially because there is no margin of error in tango.

I can do sacadas, barridas, etc. only if my partner is directly in front of me. If she is off to the side, the space for sacadas or her foot for barridas are too far away from me.

My frame was terrible, like a straitjacket. I took 3 years of private embodiment yoga to get the tension squeezed out. Took 6 months of private Alexander technique sessions to improve my posture. Dancing vastly improved from the above sessions.

 

[Rabbit]

I started with ballroom and latin and later tango. I still dance ballroom and latin. When my tango improved, my ballroom and latin improved exponentially because there is no margin of error in tango.

Surely there is no margin of error in a Viennese waltz either

 

[tangomaniac]

Surely there is no margin of error in a Viennese waltz either

Viennese Waltz doesn't have the complexities of AT. VW doesn't have the equivalent of sacadas.

 

[opendoor]

..VW doesn't have the equivalent of sacadas.

I find a fleckerl quite challenging.