Creating Smooth Routines

And number five isn't much better :( extremely corny, debatably "unleadable" without going to rather extreme approaches... (4-5 make me wonder why anyone decides to stick with cha-cha post intermediate bronze....)
 
Just the encouragement I need. :) I'll stick with rumba or the chacha dancesport patterns, only know the one so far, but it's promising.
 
I really should go back someday and work on the dancesport patterns just to know what I'm missing... I only went through bronze to know what the other people in the studio would know for socials... Bronze DS wouldn't help with that, and I couldn't compete in bronze anways (when I started at the studio I was already over the maximum number of lessons allowed for bronze competition entries)... while maybe arguments could be made that it wasn't through the franchise, etc, I felt it would have been violating the spirit of the rules in any case, let alone the letter....

I'm also not sure if I'll be continuing competing through the studio, might be switching to an independent studio for my future pro-am, but I want to continue studying at the studio even if not competing, since the syllabus is the most interesting one I've come across... (partially because you have to find ways to fix some of the weird steps ;) ) So going back to cover the bronze DS would fit in well with that approach...
 
I certainly think it'd be a good idea, from what yo'uve said of your position here and in other steps. You may or may not like them. I tend to like most of them, but not all. A lot of the DS patterns really consist of an extension to the bronze pattern of same number, so they can make a somewhat boring pattern more interesting. Tango DS 2 (think that's it) does this, adding series of contra body rocks with crossbody lead onto end of open fan combo. Still nothing hugely complicated, but interesting to me at this point with my limited exposure to CBM. :) Supposedly others are more like that too, according ot parents. They've done most of bronze, so last time they renewed ttheir teachers went back and started teaching them the DS extensions to patterns they already knew.
 
And atk, you are absolutely right. Floorcraft is someone I continue to struggle with, but slowly improve. Remember how proud i was during waltz class when I pulled out of a pattern halfway through to steer around another couple on floor. Felt great to see big grin on my teacher and other teachers face while they were congratulating me on it. Felt great that is, right until second time around floor when I proceeded to basically run teacher into that same couple. :)
 
etp777 said:
A lot of the DS patterns really consist of an extension to the bronze pattern of same number, so they can make a somewhat boring pattern more interesting.
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Yeah, everyone I knows always calls them the "DanceSport Endings" though in theory they are independently commenceable..
 
have to say it... this thread keeps drawing my attention because i speed-read it "creating smoothies"...:rolleyes:
 
kimV6 said:
can someone link me to a gold smooth syllabi? i know there are like 9 floating out there, but an NDCA or USISTD syllabus would be great.
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As promised here is the list of figures in the USISTD Gold Syllabus: (as of the 1st Edition printing, 2004)

Foxtrot:
1. Running Weave to Throwaway
2. Contra Check to Grapevine and Apart Turn
3. Whirlpool (appears to be near identical to a Hairpin)
4. Underarm Combination
5. Side by Side Variation

(It then goes on to explore the Contra Check & Throwaway Oversway in detail, offering a variety of entrences/exits for each)

Waltz:
Tornillo
Open Right to Arabesque
Side by Side Combination
Fallaway Reverse to Teleronde
Same Foot Lunge to Throwaway Oversway

(Then an exploration of the very advanced figure... the open left turn... (Open left to Reverse Pivot & Contra Check, ... to Lady's left UAT, ... to chasse to PP, ... to backward entance to CC))

Tango:
Viennese Cross to CC and Rudolph Ronde
Outside Swivel to Stalks to Inverted Swivel
Promenade Turn to X Lines
Inverted Swivel to Shadow Viennese Crosses
Outside Spin to Side by Side points
Tango Shadow Grapevine

VW:
Underarm passes
PP & CPP runs
Open Right Turn to Develope
Traveling Crosses
Traveling Crosses -= short version 1
Traveling Crosses - short version 2
Open Runs and Turns
Underarm Turns to Swivel

Tango and VW don't have the in-depth analysis of a single element like the other two...

(Skipping Peabody, I assume your not too interested in that?)
 
thanks a million. although the differences between this and the dancevision link just reinforce all my previously held notions about smooth and syllabi (that you could probably do open and argue it was on somebody's syllabus somewhere because there are about ten thousand different recognized ones)
 
Actually my impression is that DV and USISTD are relatively similar for Gold in terms of "appearance" of the figures... they are noticeable still "syllabusy". However DV's Silver and USISTD Silver are quite different, with a lot of DV's figures starting to be a little "yellow silver" :)

And the two are so different for Bronze its not even funny (caused by USISTD being basically "Standard" with different steps... all closed/pp not UATs, no alternate holds, etc)


One of the defining things I'm starting to see for Open v Syllabus for smooth is the nature of the transition between holds. The syllabus transitions tend to be simple and rather "expected". Open tends to have surprising transitions and often not built out of simepl twinkle/open impetus elements.
 
NielsenE said:
One of the defining things I'm starting to see for Open v Syllabus for smooth is the nature of the transition between holds. The syllabus transitions tend to be simple and rather "expected". Open tends to have surprising transitions and often not built out of simepl twinkle/open impetus elements.
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good to know. we're in the process of actually trying to learn more than the 4 or 5 smooth steps (all of which follow from a progressive twinkle) that we've been using through silver into gold, and the video route was one that we've considered. still not sure how we're going to accomplish this before DCDI... haha.
on that note, this is a while back, but loved your dancing at MIT, nielsene. thought i should just put that out there.
 
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