Dancing on Pure Clave.....anyone tried it?

salsachinita

salsachinita

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This came from Edie Salsafreak's site:

Remember, that truly dancing to the Clave, would be FIVE steps in an eight count measure - NOT SIX.

I'VE TRIED IT!!!
I've actually danced Salsa with a couple of partners to the PURE Clave RHYTHM of FIVE STEPS.

IT'S COOL!!!!

YOU SHOULD TRY IT!

Step exactly to the Clave rhythm. You'll see, it's a five count. If you listen carefully, depending on the song, sometimes the Clave starts on the "one", sometimes it starts on the "two"... and ... sometimes it starts on the "three"... listen very carefully,

you will be SHOCKED and AMAZED...

Then... grab your partner, and TRY DANCING TO THE FIVE COUNTS!
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I've read this quite a while ago.....and it stayed on my mind.....as I've never actually seen or known of anyone doing it.

Anyone tried it? Thoughts?
Or to our resident experts, could you please enlighten me :? ?
 
I've done it but not to an entire song. Just as a shine thing, the clave becomes very audible and I step just to that for a bit, but then I go back to the 6 step thing on 8 counts.
 
I wanted to try it but my partner was not adventurous enough :cry: :lol: There is one song that has the clave very strong (as if someone is/several people are clapping) but, as I have to be an obedient follower :evil: :oops: :lol:
 
I haven't done this, but this is exactly why I think it is so silly when someone says, "Well, if you dance on my timing you're really daning on the clave." Buddy, unless your timing's got 5 steps to it... :lol:
 
I thought if anyone knows, it'd be you, Boriken :D !

What I am really curious about, is the real physical steps. How exactly do you dance this way....? What do you do with the extra step?

How on earth are we able to fit an even number onto an odd number :? ?

:oops: Is there something really obvious that I might have missed :oops: ?
 
yep.. on occasion.. i/we step on the clave beat only.. wether it 3/2 or 2/3.. its not 123 567 or 234 678 anymore ..
its 1 2 3 12and or 1 2 3 12and OR 1 2 123and 1 2 123and.. u see the phrasing becomes very different here.. it hard for me to explain, there's alot of holds and rushes relative to the normal 6 steps i find it to complex to explain in writing .. sorry :?
 
I think I have kind of but not really done this. The two solitary beats of the clave seem a little more drawn out to me allowing for the usual steps. How I have done this is
\\\tak-tak-tak\\\\tak--tak
\\\\1\-\2\-\\3\\4\\\5-6-7\\\8
In this example my steps on the downside will be a little faster than my
steps on the upbeat.
I wanted it to show the steps under the beat but it didn't come out right.
sorry about the ugliness, I wanted to get it right.
 
salsachinita said:
Anyone tried it? Thoughts?
Or to our resident experts, could you please enlighten me :? ?
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I have danced the normal steps, but to a clave only "training" cd.

In some strange way, I hear the 8 beat clear too :shock:
 
In musically correct terms, one of the clave-beats is syncopated, i.e. falling inbetween two beats. A triplet is a set of three notes played over two beats. The clave series in salsa is struck on beats 2 3 5 6.5 8, where 6.5 is the syncopated one falling between 6 and 7 (this is the 2-3, the 3-2 is basically the same but the two measures are reversed).
If it were triplets it would have to be, for example, 6 6.5 7

Hope I didn't sound anal, and didn't get anything wrong.
 
8) Ok, let's all try this, see where it takes us.

Then when we finally meet to have our DF salsa, could you guys please lead me.... :lol: ?
 
Any suggestions for a song with a really strong 2/3 or 3/2 clave? Been browsing through the tunes I have but I'm not hearing it too well.
 
I can't remember right now a specific song, but there are a couple
on live from carnegie Hall(en vivo de carnagie hall) by Gilberto Santa Rosa.
 
Tasek said:
In musically correct terms, one of the clave-beats is syncopated, i.e. falling inbetween two beats. A triplet is a set of three notes played over two beats. The clave series in salsa is struck on beats 2 3 5 6.5 8, where 6.5 is the syncopated one falling between 6 and 7 (this is the 2-3, the 3-2 is basically the same but the two measures are reversed).
If it were triplets it would have to be, for example, 6 6.5 7

Hope I didn't sound anal, and didn't get anything wrong.
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It can be over 4 as well...I'm listening to a song at the moment thats hitting [1]-[2.3]-[3.6] .... [6]-[7]

Its a 3/2 and the first 3 are definately on triplets. But it is very hard to pick out at times because the triplet is so close to 1 - 2.5 - 4.

The best way to tell is to listen to the third click in the group of 3 and see if it falls on the beat or slightly before (the difference between 2.3 and 2.5 is barely audible so listening for that is no help).
 
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