Do I need a new hobby?

wonderwoman

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My mom would tell you, in my whole life I never showed an interest in anything. I was waiting to find my 'one true passion' and then I found it but I think I am re-evaluating what that word even means. I thought I just wanted to find something I loved to do, and I do love ballroom dancing but from the start I wanted it to be.. needed it to be more than just a casual hobby. I need to be better. And its time consuming and frustrating and expensive. And its challenging and fun and makes me feel great when I'm actually doing it, but I'm not necessarily so content in the in between time. I am constantly asking myself if its worth it, if I'm just wasting time and money that could be better used. Is anyone else like this and how do you reconcile all these opposing feelings?
 
i'm spending no money on dancing, lessons, socials, or otherwise, but still progressing and enjoying the progress. so to be honest, it's very much how you frame it and go about it, ww...

i have many interests and other abilities that have been or could easily be avid hobbies. but i know what i want and this is it... even if i'm not doing it. :)
 
part of growing up is realizing that we aren't entitiled to a gratifying existance every moment of every day...dance, like any other skill if one desires to be very good at it, is going to require internal depth and strength, sacrifice of time and resource, and a perseverance based on the true grit of deep self-knowlege that it is worth it to the soul in question...only you can discern whether or not that is true for your soul...but I will say this...nothing in my life has ever remained sheer effortless bliss on a daily basis and the search for that has never been beneficial...
 
[...]its challenging and fun and makes me feel great when I'm actually doing it, but I'm not necessarily so content in the in between time. I am constantly asking myself if its worth it, if I'm just wasting time and money that could be better used.

It sounds like it might depend on what you really want out of ballroom dancing.

How do you define "I need to be better"? Better as in, the best I can be, enjoying the journey and what it brings to me and where it takes me? Or better as in world champion?

I applaud the fact that you are looking deeply in to what you are trying to get out of ballroom, I've seen so many people blindly wander through the landscape for years. I think once you find what ballroom brings to you and where it fits in your scheme of things, you will be able to make make the judgement whether it's a "waste" of time and money or not.
 
Hi wonderwoman – I don’t know if what I’m about to write is at all relevant to you, but these were the thoughts that sparked in my mind reading your post. So, I’m sure you can take from it anything (if anything) useful and leave the rest.

First off – I think it is a great question and I think you will benefit from your own thinking on it, as well as the responses that you have gotten/will get.

My thoughts:



1.One thing to consider is what ‘better’ means for you. It is possible that, similar to many perfectionists, that you won’t be happy with anything less than perfect. If that is the case, it really isn’t ballroom dancing that is the issue, as this same issue would arise with any hobby. If this is the issue, reframing what success looks like for you, would be what is most important. I have a book or two that I’d recommend if you think this might be contributing to your feelings. Being a perfectionist ‘sounds’ like a good thing – but in most cases leads to destructive behavior, robbing you of your enjoyment of most anything. I can certainly relate as that was me for some time. There is a way to have high standards without being crippled.
  • Just as an example, Blackpool Finalists, are still critiqued in their dancing and are still working on the ‘basics,’ so ballroom dancing is not something, like a math problem, where you can get the ‘right’ answer and then move on. It really is a journey – one that you can be on your entire life – without ever reaching ‘I’ve made it – the end.”
2.It would be great to sit down and really write what you love about ballroom dancing. One friend comes to mind – what really intrigued her about ballroom was the romance of it all – the gentlemanly behavior – the hope of meeting someone through dancing. If this is driving you, your approach will be very different than if what you happen to love is moving to music, or challenging your mind and body constantly. There is no right or wrong here – whatever you love about it is what you love about it. And knowing this – precisely – will help you with your plan.




3.As far as finances, there are many different views on this – so this is just mine. I, personally, don’t like to stress about my mortgage payment or any other financial matters and I’ve lived with a personal goal of not depending on anyone else for money – including gov’t programs (of course, this would change should I marry, because then, obviously, finances are a shared matter). So, my view has been to work as I need to to make sure I have enough money for my needs, and my desires. This view started for me at age 11, and was shaped by childhood experiences. There are A LOT of cuts one can make financially and not feel like you are missing anything. I like to know that I have the money to pay my bills. So, I have made the decision to cover those needs first, and would not spend money dancing if these matters were not covered. I’m not saying this is ‘right’ for you. However, it has helped me work hard and achieve things I never would have imagined I would because I had the desire to be able to pay for things, such as dancing.
  • I’m not saying you are doing this – but a common thing I see is people thinking – oh, to be ‘great’ I have to have multiple privates. And I see absolutely no evidence that those who have taken a private every day, or several a week, have progressed in their dancing faster than those taking other paths. In the right studio, group classes are PHENOMENAL, and socials are amazing learning environments. I’m not going to debate this point with others, it is simply my view. I share it because you can progress – greatly – through these means and by solo practice. (And I am a fan of privates -- not knocking them at all).
  • Practice at home is great, and there are gym environments that you can get practice time really cheap – and I’m talking less than $2 an hour – if you are flexible with the time you are available to practice.
4.Be cautious of all or nothing thinking. I’m not saying you are doing this – it is just a caution. On this point, I’m referencing your post in the dancingirldancing thread. For example, there is nothing wrong with eating lots of non-organic fruits & veggies from a farmer’s market, and then buying organic when you feel you have the money to do so. Or find the top 1-3 veggies known for pestisides, buy organic for those, and non-organic for the rest. It doesn’t mean buying non-organic for now, means you will always do so. It also doesn’t mean that buying non-organic for now means you won’t feel good. And, libraries are a great resource for books – so you don’t have to buy them. Pretty clothes – can’t help you there – anyone who knows me would tell you I’m not gifted in this regard (smile!)

So, hope these thoughts help – and best of luck.
 
I've always been the kind of person to blow things off as soon as I start or before I even start because of fear of failure. Like I said, when I'm doing it, that fear doesn't even cross my mind for a second. It's all the inbetween time where I have self doubt.
I absolutely would not say I feel entitled to instant gratification or entitled to anything. I work my butt off. I'm proud of that.
I know I'll ultimately keep going down the same path because like I said it's the only passion I've ever had and can't see anything ever replacing it.
Just wondering what others do if they feel in a funk like I've been in lately.
 
I'm definitely already aware there's no end point or ultimate goal. Probably part of why its so intimidating. Since I was a kid I was aware of having only so much time to live my life (this is weird right?) and wanting to take advantage of every day while being afraid to and just letting time pass me by. I am so weird.
 
well then...accept the funk as part of the journey...that's the whole point...anything worth pursuing is going to have its dog days...and any choice you make will mean foregoing others...that is part of lfe...everyone's life...and when we realize that a certain amount of regret comes with being a conscious decision maker, it isn't so alarming anymore...

however, it is good to examine one's goals and to know whether you want to have one or not...b/c you surely won't acheive one without setting one...which is fine if you are content...but not a good plan if you aren't
 
Right... accepting the bad with the good... I think that when I sit down and examine all the pros and cons and I still want to keep going that way, I must really want it. :)
 
exactly...I don't know single person who made it through grad school without thinking they wanted to quit many many times...and without realizing all the things they have given up...it is what makes an accomplishment an accomplishment...a marriage, a marriage...etc...I could be the owner of a second home by now and have every imperfect thing nipped and tucked on my body, and be driving a fancy sports car, and getting my sinking driveway repaired and my badly outdated house re-modeled and cleaned by someone else...but I dance instead...and I have no idea whether or not it is foolish...certainly seems so on many days...but...right now...it is my choice and I continue in that direction...I assume enough bad days in a row would facilitate a change in priority...but, for now, this is my path...I doubt that yours or mine, even if they were different paths than dance, would ever be without some conflicting aspects and regret
 
Right... accepting the bad with the good...
and we tend to be so quick to judge a "funk" or the discomfort of limitation as "bad"... it's just a construct of some element of the life we have created, tho possibly unconsciously, and the funk or frustration gives an opportunity to become more conscious of what that is... and how we would choose going forward.

if you are feeling frustrated or disillusioned right now, and it catalyzes you to gain greater clarity on your purpose and what you desire, so that you can take greater conscious initiative to move in that direction...well, that funk is quite a gift.

IME, funks have a lot to say, if we stop judging them long enough to respect them and listen in...:cool:
 
exactly...sometimes I think all of us can have unrealistic expactations about how often pleasure is supposed to occur from a source outside ourselves...which can often lead to unneccesary disappointment ...it has nothing to do with entitlement, just often an unrealistic expectation about how life is and from whence change really originates
 
nicely put. and OTOH, if one seeks that pleasure from the center of an inner source, pleasure and bliss can increase radically in one's life... because it is not dependent on the fluctuations of outer circumstances.

ww, if you can find a clear statement for yourself that answers "what do you want to *do* with dance... what do you want it to help you *achieve* in your life?" it may go a long way in helping you make peace with your frustration at this juncture. because that might point to the desire behind the desire... if that makes sense.
 
I'm definitely already aware there's no end point or ultimate goal. Probably part of why its so intimidating. Since I was a kid I was aware of having only so much time to live my life (this is weird right?) and wanting to take advantage of every day while being afraid to and just letting time pass me by. I am so weird.

I've asked myself, and others, many times if I shouldn't find a "real" or just different hobby.
I was in Nepal for an entire month, and, man was it hard to come back and get back in the swing of things. When I walked in the tango practica I've been going to for years, I said to people, "Man, I am so done with this". When I go to the coutnry western place I keep thinking, "Why can't the people here hear the music and why are they so limited in their dancing and couldn't I spend this time more wisely?"
And, And,
I'm headed to the library later to pick up dvds so I can check out a reference for Benny Goodman's 1937 appearance at the Parmount. All because of an article on West Coast Swing in Wikipedia a few years ago.
And, I've got about 10 books about dance out of the library.
And,
I'm going to teach myself to do a little thing Buddy Ebsen did in a Davey Crockett movie to use in my line dancing.

So, I don't know. 99.999...% of the people in the world might think I'm wasting my time or don't care about any of it.
But, I guess I do.
So I keep doing it through the ups and the downs, because I guess it's important to me. And, maybe as time goes by you'll think it's important to you, too.
 

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