Fibonacci

dchester said:
FWIW, if I wanted to learn about a specific move, I'd be more inclined to take a class on that specific move, rather than a class on the teachers approach to tango. Maybe I'm unusual, but that has been my approach.
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I'm not saying your approach is unusual, on the contrary, it seems to be widespread.
I just find it too much focused on moves.
 
salthepal said:
In all seriousness, that musicality presentation is really good. Maybe I was just impressed with the concept of painting a song. Take a look.

muratandmichelle . com / LECTURE / LECTURE/ Home . html

edit: just to clarify, what I'm talking about is not a tango workshop per se; it's a lecture, accompanied with music and videos.
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They are offering something similar at the festival I am looking at.

Lecture
20:00 - 21:00 (zaal2)
Lecture Art, Music and Dance by Murat Erdemsel
Entrance € 5 p.p inclusive salon (milonga)
 
chanchan said:
I just find it too much focused on moves.
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Why is this so bad and any less helpful than whatever approach you would like to take? Infact I would have thought this more specific approach more helpful if you have certain areas of difficulty compared the very general non specific approach you are advocating.

I would have thought the best way (private lesson accepted) to try and improve on an area you need help with is to find a class on that subject matter.

And,I suspect that you are interpreting dchester to narrowly. The topic could be a particular type of move or a particular piece of technique or a particular type of music.
 
chanchan said:
If you decide to attend a workshop, it should be because you like the teachers, and not because you lack that specific step in your collection...
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On the rare occasions that I take any group instruction these days (class or workshop format) it would be for one of two reasons:

I have found through past experience that the teachers advance my tango no matter what the subject is and I grab any opportunity to work with them some more.

The class subject is in an area that I feel I need to improve and I HOPE, if the teacher is unfamiliar to me, that I will get something from their class.

Notice that nowhere did I mention adding a step to my collection, however, my decision is not always based on the teacher either.
 
Zoopsia59 said:
On the rare occasions that I take any group instruction these days (class or workshop format) it would be for one of two reasons:

I have found through past experience that the teachers advance my tango no matter what the subject is and I grab any opportunity to work with them some more.

The class subject is in an area that I feel I need to improve and I HOPE, if the teacher is unfamiliar to me, that I will get something from their class.
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I liked the way you formulated it, Zoopsia, and realized it is true for me, too.
The third of my reasons would be: "I just need to mop the floor", but that one hardly stands alone these days.
 
Lilly_of_the_valley said:
I liked the way you formulated it, Zoopsia, and realized it is true for me, too.
The third of my reasons would be: "I just need to mop the floor", but that one hardly stands alone these days.
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"I just need to sweep the floor" we'd make a good couple on the dance floor.....

On moves; the good teachers focus on technique and how this part of the dance works with the music.....
 
bordertangoman said:
the good teachers focus on technique and how this part of the dance works with the music.....
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This is the point: if they are good teachers, I expect that the real topics of he lesson would be things like technique, musicality, connection.
Independently of the examples that they will show.
 
Dave Bailey said:
Whilst, yes, I'd attend a workshop based on my opinion of the teachers (or a recommendation from a trusted source), I'd also want to know what the workshop is about.

;)
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I would certainly prefer to know what the workshop was about. However, there's no guarantee that the teachers will stick to the plan as it clearly depends on their estimate of the general level of the class. It also depends on how I've interpreted the title and how they've interpreted the title.

There seems to be an ever-increasing flood of Argentinian teachers flooding through the UK at the mo, each one billed as more legendary than the last, the vast majority of which no-one, except the organiser, has ever heard of. A certain leap of faith is required to spend my money on these.

I would be happy to take classes in just walking if I felt the teacher had special qualities to transmit. (Or indeed, anyway.)

Zoopsia said:
Notice that nowhere did I mention adding a step to my collection, however, my decision is not always based on the teacher either.
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I've occasionally done this but it usually turns out to be pretty fruitless. Do followers need to know steps?

One cast-iron guarantee I'd like to have these days before spending my hard-earned is that 50% of the class will be focussed upon addressing the followers' needs and duties. My days of acting as a paying dummy for the blokes' moves are over!
 
Madahlia said:
There seems to be an ever-increasing flood of Argentinian teachers flooding through the UK at the mo, each one billed as more legendary than the last, the vast majority of which no-one, except the organiser, has ever heard of. A certain leap of faith is required to spend my money on these.

!
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oh yes "the legendary" Guido El-tipo-raro-de-en el-norte Davido
is visiting us..
he must be good if he has a long monica though

a legend in his own CV no doubt ;) ;)
 
Madahlia said:
I would certainly prefer to know what the workshop was about. However, there's no guarantee that the teachers will stick to the plan as it clearly depends on their estimate of the general level of the class. It also depends on how I've interpreted the title and how they've interpreted the title.
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Indeed, "no battle plan survives contact with the enemy" :)

That said, if you run a workshop rather than a class, you should have an idea of who's attending and their rough level of experience. If you don't, you're just teaching a class.

In fact:
Madahlia said:
There seems to be an ever-increasing flood of Argentinian teachers flooding through the UK at the mo, each one billed as more legendary than the last, the vast majority of which no-one, except the organiser, has ever heard of. A certain leap of faith is required to spend my money on these.
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They may well be legendary, but they have no idea of who they'll be teaching. They're strangers, and they're teaching strangers. Which makes the workshops simple classes.

So I guess my view would be "don't take classes from strangers".

Madahlia said:
One cast-iron guarantee I'd like to have these days before spending my hard-earned is that 50% of the class will be focussed upon addressing the followers' needs and duties. My days of acting as a paying dummy for the blokes' moves are over!
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I guess one obvious way to proceed is to look for lessons where both of the couple are actual teachers, and where provide equal amount of input.
 
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