Head Position in Close Embrace

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if he forgot, though, I'd just reach up with my left hand and tuck the collar back into his own shirt and keep on dancing.

I will say, because my forehead was usually perpendicular to my teacher's jaw, I always had plenty of time to really look (closely!) at whatever necklace he was wearing. He had some really interesting ones to look at.
:lol:
 
Yeah. I've tried the looking sexy with my hair down thing. It doesn't work. Not only do I not pull off "sexy" very well, but after a tanda or two I'm a sweaty mess anyhow. Pulling it back just makes life easier. I also keep a hair tie on my wrist, or a clip on a belt loop, for just that reason.
After reading your comments about dancing techniques (in other threads), I can imagine that your dance is sexy enough. You don't need anything else.

Talking about sexy. Once I took my daughter to look at some potential dance dressed for me. She commented: Mom, you wouldn't buy any of these. They are for sexy people!
 
I feel more at ease after hearing that we have those options. My head was turned (literally) by a leader before. I figure I must have done something wrong.

Yes, you have that option. Just my opinion... a lead should let the woman determine the embrace, and where she wants to hold her head. It should be what makes her comfortable.
 
my salon style teachers suggested to the ladies that turning the head to the right allowed them to get more visual cues from the leader including opportunities for adornments that match the leaders.

A couple of blogs address the salon style vs milonguero style head placement:

http://mytangodiaries.blogspot.com/2009/10/head-position-in-tango-embrace.html

http://web.archive.org/web/20160324133820/http://totango.net/janis.html

finding what's comfortable for you, with your partner of the moment is probably best - BUT - I find it disconcerting when a woman keeps changing her head position during a song, so for a guy like me, get comfortable & stay there for a while. Changing once or twice, changing as the embrace changes are fine - but more than that is too much for me.
 
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Well, yeah. Any more than that and it's like trying to fall asleep in bed with someone who keeps tossing and turning! :D
 
Yeah. I've tried the looking sexy with my hair down thing. It doesn't work. Not only do I not pull off "sexy" very well,.

:rolleyes:

Peaches, I've seen your pictures, remember?
You are an extremely gorgeous woman! I think quite a few people would call you "sexy".
 
my salon style teachers suggested to the ladies that turning the head to the right allowed them to get more visual cues from the leader including opportunities for adornments that match the leaders.
A couple of blogs address the salon style vs milonguero style head placement:
... (omitted since I don't have permission to post URL)

Thanks for the links!

According to Janis:
"In the milongas of Buenos Aires where I dance, 99% of the women hold their head straight looking over the man's shoulder with the left arm placed entirely around his neck so that her hand is somewhere on his left shoulder."
I'm doing just that (when in close embrace)! :bouncy:
 
Thanks for the links!

According to Janis:
"In the milongas of Buenos Aires where I dance, 99% of the women hold their head straight looking over the man's shoulder with the left arm placed entirely around his neck so that her hand is somewhere on his left shoulder."
I'm doing just that (when in close embrace)! :bouncy:
In case you are interested, here is her blog.

http://jantango.wordpress.com/
 
my salon style teachers suggested to the ladies that turning the head to the right allowed them to get more visual cues from the leader including opportunities for adornments that match the leaders...

I can understand women wanting visual clues when dancing a more open style, or maybe with partners who don't give clear leads.

I prefer apilado and I think my partner should be able to get plenty of information without having to look at what I'm doing. Hopefully she can feel exactly what I'm doing and where my feet are, the same way I can feel what she's doing and where her feet are.
 
I can understand women wanting visual clues when dancing a more open style, or maybe with partners who don't give clear leads.

I prefer apilado and I think my partner should be able to get plenty of information without having to look at what I'm doing. Hopefully she can feel exactly what I'm doing and where my feet are, the same way I can feel what she's doing and where her feet are.

They were teaching salon style, where the couple are closed at the man's right side & slightly open on the left side for walking, with a flexible embrace that opens a little more on the left side to allow for figures. The adornments that this head position allows for include, for example, allowing the woman to see & respond to the dibujos that the man may do with his left foot. Since these are adornments the woman's response is not lead.

I agree with earlier posters, and the bloggers who indicate that head position may vary according to the style of the embrace - salon or apilado. I also agree that in apilado there is no need for visual cues.
 
They were teaching salon style, where the couple are closed at the man's right side & slightly open on the left side for walking, with a flexible embrace that opens a little more on the left side to allow for figures. The adornments that this head position allows for include, for example, allowing the woman to see & respond to the dibujos that the man may do with his left foot. Since these are adornments the woman's response is not lead.

I agree with earlier posters, and the bloggers who indicate that head position may vary according to the style of the embrace - salon or apilado. I also agree that in apilado there is no need for visual cues.
There's NEVER any need for visual clues unless the guy cannot lead at all. Then it becomes a matter of self- (toe-) preservation. Visual lead is no more necessary when dancing Nuevo than it is for dancing apilado.
 
One qualifier I would add is that if someone is significantly taller than you are, then looking straight over their should is not an option....I haven't met that many tall Argentine's and so the average height between partners is often such that finding another head position is not necessary other than that which Janis advises...Unfortuantely, living in America or Europe, there is often a rather large discrepancy in height and so adjustments have to be found. I find the American teachers to be the best ones to approach for this.
 

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