How Are Your Lessons Going? Thread 3

Cal, are you me? I swear I have heard all those same critiques (in general, I can't speak to the specific figures).

I know dance has its ups and downs, and I don't want to hand-wave your down moment away here, but I now reluctantly conclude that there's only so much one can do in "solo". It has recently started to sink in for me that this is partner dancing for a reason - it's not enough for me to just do my part, there's a give and take of energy with the other person that you just can't match in a solo run-through. If I had to drink every time my silver American-style instructor said "find me" on the last lesson.... well, that's why I don't play those games.

Anyways, I have confidence in you.
 
Destination Rounds-burg, it is just outside Here-We-Go-Againsville. The lessons this week focused on Smooth and Rhythm rounds. This was done as a checkpoint on where I am with my dancing across the various styles. Do I plan on competing, outside of the studio, any time soon? Great big NO. Am I sure if I will compete/perform outside of the studio again? Smaller no.

Going over the various dances with pre-recorded choreo is always a treat. The dancing is in short bursts. The more I think about it, competitive ballroom seems to be more akin to sprinting. The dancing is not for long and it switches quickly between the styles.

We started with the Smooth styles. Waltz was solid or at least done to a level to have minimal feedback. I continue to count the dances out loud and try not to die or hold my breath and count. Turns out if you hold your breath and talk you will nearly die. Foxtrot was my next strongest style, but some elements of the "coached" choreo are still a struggle. I find it difficult to lead some elements because I am not familiar enough with dancing those elements.

Tango was slightly above mediocre. Some patterns I mess up consistently because I have practiced them incorrectly. Breaking bad practice is super difficult. The other areas of struggle are with lackluster leading. This is an area that having choreo I think is a weakness because the person you are dancing with "knows" what should come next, but they try to "act" as if they don't. My instructor tells me she continues to work on just following what I lead, but at times she still anticipates because she knows what should be next.

Viennese Waltz on the first trip was TERRI-BAD. I believe I am scared of the dance on some level because of the perceived speed. I imagine it is akin to learning to race a car. You have to learn to be comfortable with the possibility of wrecking to really learn to do it. I am not comfortable with this possibility because I loathe the idea of doing something that prevents my instructor from making a living. To paraphrase Drago for my own well being, "If I die, I die". The second and third go around were improved, but in the notes it was listed that the dance continues to need work. That is the most obvious statement of all time.

The Rhythm dances were generally better, even though we have done them less lately. The general comment was I need to make sure I finish every pattern before moving on. The focus moving forward with the dances is going to be on hip action. This is 0 surprise to me as it is an area that I make nearly 0 progress in. At this point I am thinking it is because I understand theory, but not the praxis. I shouldn't be surprised in this because I was VERY theoretically grounded in Grad School. Or it is because I am too chunky, which I am sure does not aid in the area.

At the end of the day I really need to decide on what my current dance goals are. Overall I do this because it is fun and a community that I enjoy being included. I have friends within the community and have generally found people in the dance community to be more accepting than some other communities. Dancing competitively is something that I waffle on continuously. It is enjoyable and nice to test my skills against others. However, as a lead, there is less competition and as a lead in my age range there is even less competition. Does competition dancing make me a better dancer vs. does taking lessons (i.e. time spent dancing) make me a better dancer? My view of competitions is they are akin to tests in the education world. Lessons are akin to classes. They are certainly related, but where do you grow more?

Enough rambling.
Is there anyone at your studio who would be interested in competing with you in amateur competitions? The competitions are much less expensive than Pro-Am, and you can get a lot more floor time practicing with another person without paying for every hour that you dance. If you split the lessons, the cost is halved or you can take twice as many lessons for the same money :)
 
Started learning the first 3/4 of my pre bronze waltz routine. I sort of have a mental block when I’m learning new things but by the end of the lesson did it once well.

And starting to get into the nitty gritty about posture and arms and neck elongation.

The studio has a board with all the students’ Polaroids and they recently reorganized them into Open, gold, silver, bronze etc, which naturally makes me more competitive. Gotta get to be better than the purely standard person ahead of me. Not sure if that’s a good thing or not.

I do need to get in way better shape. What exercises( pilates? Yoga, walking running) do you find helpful to built strength and balance?
I have found yoga to be the most helpful for dance – improves flexibility, strength, balance, breathing technique
 
All lessons last week were in silver smooth tango. I finally feel like maaaaaaaybe I don't totally suck at it as bad as I thought; and have even felt brave enough to upload some video clips showing what we're working on (I think the last time I uploaded a tango video was April 2023...10 mos ago!!!). Pro and I are both still focused on technique, but there's a noticeable air of "and also let's think about the performance aspect!" because we're talking about entering a comp later this year (maybe Millennium, Manhattan, Capital, Hotlanta...who knows. Almost certainly NOT Ohio, though, since this will be my first silver comp...although I admit part of me is definitely tempted, simply bcs OSB provides the most bang for the buck).

Anyway, things are going well. We haven't done any Rhythm in months, and when we talked about competing, he suggested - HE SUGGESTED!!! - that we could enter in just one style this time. Mr. "I don't believe in limiting yourself to just one style" and "why would you enter a comp in only one style when you're studying two" (and many other statements along those lines) actually suggested that! I'm still a little in shock. But I don't know if I want to go all the way to a comp to dance just for a few hours on a single day then come back home. I REALLY wish there were local comps available. Sigh.

Lots to think about...lots to learn...lots to look forward to!
 
All lessons last week were in silver smooth tango. I finally feel like maaaaaaaybe I don't totally suck at it as bad as I thought; and have even felt brave enough to upload some video clips showing what we're working on (I think the last time I uploaded a tango video was April 2023...10 mos ago!!!). Pro and I are both still focused on technique, but there's a noticeable air of "and also let's think about the performance aspect!" because we're talking about entering a comp later this year (maybe Millennium, Manhattan, Capital, Hotlanta...who knows. Almost certainly NOT Ohio, though, since this will be my first silver comp...although I admit part of me is definitely tempted, simply bcs OSB provides the most bang for the buck).

Anyway, things are going well. We haven't done any Rhythm in months, and when we talked about competing, he suggested - HE SUGGESTED!!! - that we could enter in just one style this time. Mr. "I don't believe in limiting yourself to just one style" and "why would you enter a comp in only one style when you're studying two" (and many other statements along those lines) actually suggested that! I'm still a little in shock. But I don't know if I want to go all the way to a comp to dance just for a few hours on a single day then come back home. I REALLY wish there were local comps available. Sigh.

Lots to think about...lots to learn...lots to look forward to!
Would one style be worth it? Not sure of the cost of one vs two styles.
 
Would one style be worth it? Not sure of the cost of one vs two styles.
A second style means I have to pay for an extra night at the hotel (for two rooms), an extra day of Pro being out of the studio (the studio charges a fee for that, plus I pay for his meals each day he’s out), a second hair and makeup appointment, and of course entry fees for each event I enter ($75 per dance, based on my prior comps. So 2 sets of rhythm singles and one 5-dance scholarship would cost me a minimum of $1125 in entry fees).

A realistic estimate is that it would cost me an extra $2000 to compete in rhythm in addition to smooth, and that’s if I do only two sets of singles and one scholarship.
 
Telemark is currently my nemesis. My head weight is off - too sharp or too soon or too slow. And not consistently any of them either. We've been working on it very slowly in lessons. Now to practice (and practice and practice).
 
Oh dance journey! Pro-am dynamics is weird. Pro1 is more chatty, friendly and goofy than pro2. Pro2 is mostly all business when it comes to lessons which I love. Sometimes I don't say anything and whenever lesson feels intense and I'm all up for it, he'll say..."we're really having good lesson today!" And it really makes me happy hearing that, like he really enjoys teaching me. But sometimes he's too business, that at the end of the day I'm just a student who pays because he forgets things on my lessons like my routine or something he was trying to tell me to do last lesson but won't notice it on the next lesson etc.... Am I dramatic that don't feel like he really cares about my growth? Or maybe he does, but not much as the one who pays more? I know he got tons of other students and he does travel and compete. Regardless, I'm learning and it's fun to his enthusiasm on our lessons.

I'm not trying to be a friend to these Pros. While I'm very chit chat friendly, I don't really like narrating my whole life to them. But Pro1 since very chatty and maybe he feels really comfy with me that he tells me about his life. If I can be a help for someone who needs to vent then sure I'm here to listen. So yes, somehow I feel closer to Pro1. Last lesson with Pro1, asked me a question about myself, and after my response, he just started acting cold. Nothing about my response that's demeaning. It's just about me that's seemed unexpected for him. Yes, I'm so used to this reaction from people but I'm not used to him to react that way. I was so looking forward having a fun and friendly lesson, but so disappointed because it feels like the dynamics was awkward. I did learn and all but just felt like it was a stranger pr
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This probably won’t surprise any experienced dancers, but I am consistently surprised at the number of little things I used to know, but have forgotten I should be doing. Pro will remind me of something basic like, “you’re not pivoting on your right foot when you cross your left foot in front of it” (this is at count five and six the left turn in smooth Viennese waltz). As soon as he says it, I think to myself, “oh right! I knew that.” Or he’ll tell me to shape my upper body this or that way while my lower body is the other way, and I’ll suddenly remember that he has told me that before (one or two thousand times), but for some reason it didn’t stick in my head – or maybe more accurately, didn’t stick in my body.

From a learning standpoint, it makes sense, because the more advanced you become, the more there is for you to learn…and thus the more there is for you to forget.

Sigh. After 4+ years of private lessons, I know I shouldn’t still have unrealistic expectations about how quickly I will learn how to do something; but after 50+ years of being me, I still do.

We worked on tango for two straight weeks, so my lessons this week were on foxtrot, waltz, and a tiny bit of Viennese waltz. Pro said my left and right turns in Viennese were the best they’ve ever been, because, as he said, “this was the first time I’ve felt that you were fully present in the moment.” Unfortunately, as soon as we started doing the apart patterns, I forgot everything and felt completely incompetent. When that happens, it reinforces my suspicion that instead of being a good dancer, I am merely a good pro/am dancer…in other words, HE makes me look good because HE is the one creating the movement and the shape. As soon as I no longer have him to use as my crutch, such as when we’re doing apart work, I become very self-conscious and hyperaware of my many inadequacies.

Again, sigh. I’m probably not being fair to myself, but nonetheless it’s a continuing insecurity I have, and having it reinforced is frustrating.

But despite all that, I’m still feeling positive overall, and am still as addicted to dancing as I was when I started. Go figure.
 
When that happens, it reinforces my suspicion that instead of being a good dancer, I am merely a good pro/am dancer…in other words, HE makes me look good because HE is the one creating the movement and the shape. As soon as I no longer have him to use as my crutch, such as when we’re doing apart work, I become very self-conscious and hyperaware of my many inadequacies.

Uh, maybe. But maybe you just dance better when you're getting a more secure lead, which is true of all good followers.
 
Still drilling into minutiae. Finding all the little things that need to change to pick up speed.

Three step turn in front of partner, ending forward L, forward with half turn to R foot. I need to just step on left foot, without the 2 inch slide I have been unaware of on the L foot before moving to R foot half turn. So many of these tiny things have caused me to be 1/8 - 1/4 beat behind in spots, and then I feel the need to rush to make the next step on time.

Other combinations I have only seen pro do with pro partner. I haven't seen any AM do this fairly common combo but with my crazy ending.

Why can't I be more precise!

Something I have been wondering about lately, especially after viewing my comp videos. Do pro/am dancers ever come up to pro level without turning pro? What is a reasonable expectation for what a good pro/am dancer should look like on the floor?

I know I have some good skills, that are not flashy on the floor. Pro tells me I maintain excellent connection while dancing, better than almost any am he has had as a student. That makes his job easier, and allows him to assist me if needed. But I want to be a good dancer, not just good at keeping connection to pro.
 
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