How to improve musicality

the danger seems to me more that you could never get the feeling that you are good enough to do what you do. Or that you actually want to dance with other people than the ones you are dancing with.
A similar situation applies to when you come from a different dance that you are good at, and then have expectations that you can pick up tango very quickly and have certain expectations about events and partners. Then a slap in the face when you realize reality.
 
A similar situation applies to when you come from a different dance that you are good at, and then have expectations that you can pick up tango very quickly and have certain expectations about events and partners. Then a slap in the face when you realize reality.
The great thing about having done other dances is that you tend to have a better body awareness and proprioception in general, plus responsiveness to music (maybe less for some dances?) and balance (especially if you've done dancesport or ballet). Unfortunately, that only helps with part of the steep learning curve.
 
am finding it hard to synch with the music.
Any tips to improve my musicality?
Years ago, a student suggested to me that I not stop the class without telling people how to do what I was teaching to the music, and how to fit it to the floor. That was excellent advise, and improved my teaching immensely. Does your teacher do this?
 
Well, if people are constantly falling in and out of their steps, the dance won't feel or look good. There are diminishing returns on technique past a certain point though.
OK. But what point would that be? Also, can one have too much technique? These are legitimate questions. I don't have an answer. I do have opinions about performers/escenario dancers who don't really concern themselves much with the run-of-the-mill ronda.
 
I do have opinions about performers/escenario dancers who don't really concern themselves much with the run-of-the-mill ronda.
I simply avoid their classes/workshops! It is a bit ridiculous (considering that you might possibly glean something about good general technique) to learn from them if your intention is to dance socially at a milonga.
 
OK. But what point would that be? Also, can one have too much technique? These are legitimate questions. I don't have an answer.

I think these are good questions. There are many different skills involved in dancing and a lot of people fall into a trap where they become overly obsessed about one aspect whether that's technique, steps, floorcraft, appearance, emotion, partner communication, specific types of music... etc. I don't think one can have too much of any of these skills, but training only one skill and neglecting the others isnt an efficient way to go about things.

Everyone will naturally specialize in the aspects that are most appealing to them, but you don't want to have areas that are a glaring weakness either.
 
I think these are good questions. There are many different skills involved in dancing and a lot of people fall into a trap where they become overly obsessed about one aspect whether that's technique, steps, floorcraft, appearance, emotion, partner communication, specific types of music... etc. I don't think one can have too much of any of these skills, but training only one skill and neglecting the others isnt an efficient way to go about things.
Good points. Some are easier to achieve than others, such as appearance, music. Emotion and partner communication will, I think, always remain an open book. We don't know those things beforehand and can't really plan for them. Floorcraft can be taught, should be taught, but often is neglected. However, it also doesn't take years to learn. Technique is a tricky issue. If we mean it as the ability to execute a movement flawlessly, then it's not so important for social dancing. But there's a place for technique in learning the fundamentals also I think (I don't know what else to call it). Learning the abrazo, learning the physical connection with your partner & how that works, learning how to walk, posture, leg stance, etc. could also be part of technique. Do you agree?
 
I don't think one can have too much of any of these skills, but training only one skill and neglecting the others isnt an efficient way to go about things.
Yes, but shifting the focus over a timeline of years can still be very effective. Some things not only need their time, but also the right time. And sometimes doing something not might be most effective.
 
Good points. Some are easier to achieve than others, such as appearance, music. Emotion and partner communication will, I think, always remain an open book. We don't know those things beforehand and can't really plan for them. Floorcraft can be taught, should be taught, but often is neglected. However, it also doesn't take years to learn. Technique is a tricky issue. If we mean it as the ability to execute a movement flawlessly, then it's not so important for social dancing. But there's a place for technique in learning the fundamentals also I think (I don't know what else to call it). Learning the abrazo, learning the physical connection with your partner & how that works, learning how to walk, posture, leg stance, etc. could also be part of technique. Do you agree?

Most things are relatively easy to improve from a low level to acceptable, and then increasingly harder when you get above acceptable. Even with appearance I'd say wearing trousers or a skirt that makes nice lines is low investment and improving how your body looks is a lot of effort. Musicality also appears to be hard to get past the "step on the beat" stage (although I suspect that a lot of the teaching methods used in tango classes for this are actually ineffective.)

I think its reasonable to split technique into fundamentals and decorative aspects. Even so, a dancer can have great fundamentals, but still not be enjoyable to dance with if they don't understand music, or are too busy paying attention to how they look to connect, or crash into people every 30 seconds.
 
I think its reasonable to split technique into fundamentals and decorative aspects. Even so, a dancer can have great fundamentals, but still not be enjoyable to dance with if they don't understand music, or are too busy paying attention to how they look to connect, or crash into people every 30 seconds.
Well, I would consider those things "fundamentals" myself, or maybe "essential" elements. I tend to see them as going hand in hand. Part of learning the basic structure of tango is also learning how to incorporate musicality into your dance. Connection? I'm not sure that can be taught. Some people simply fall into it, others not so much.
 

I was looking up local tango calendar for the day. This video was posted in a workshop announcement by these visiting instructors.

I like the way he dances and how he interpretes musicality as a lead. I think I dance very similarly, except I will not open up the embrace as much as he does. Any critics of his style?

Other thing I liked is that despite a show performance they are moving/traveling in a ronda. Most of how they are dancing can easily be done when dancing socially.
 



I like the way he dances and how he interpretes musicality as a lead. I think I dance very similarly, except I will not open up the embrace as much as he does. Any critics of his style?

Other thing I liked is that despite a show performance they are moving/traveling in a ronda. Most of how they are dancing can easily be done when dancing socially.
I don't really like this. Am not inspired by it, aside from some interesting interpretations of the music, and do not wish to dance like this.
 
This performance doesn't inspire me. I had to force myself not to switch off after 5 seconds: the earthiness is missing, both dance into the air, not into the floor. There is little projection. Neither of them really employ their lumbar spine. This makes them look dancing rectangular. Furthermore, they cannot abstract from the music.
 

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