International Standard Waltz: CBM vs no CBM

[madmaximus]

. . . There's nothing natural about a Natural Turn, from the follow's side -- it's a nightmare of potential screwups waiting to happen. So easy for me to pull myself off him! Or cross his center line! I can block his movement! No, wait, I can lose my poise! No, wait, I can crunch my side in the sway! He can muscle me so far across him that I have to fight him to stay in position! "Natural" is not descriptive. (Why oh why didn't they just name the turns "left" and "right," which are easy and intuitive? ARRRGH)

I repeat: I am not a potted plant. It's my job to help Mr. Outside of Turn get where he's going. Or at the very least, not hinder (it's a low bar).

Truly and absolutely delighted with this sentiment.




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[Warren J. Dew]

She meant always. Mr. Outside of Turn is still outside of turn in a reverse turn, isn’t he?

Not in the second half, so it's not "always".

 

[j_alexandra]

Not in the second half, so it's not "always".

talking about the 123. Because lead is inside of turn for the 456 of either reverse or natural.

 

[Warren J. Dew]

talking about the 123. Because lead is inside of turn for the 456 of either reverse or natural.

In that case, I'll be happy to take a strong backward moving partner in the natural, because she can swing me past her.

In the reverse turn, early CBM and proper placement of partner's step 1 are more important to me, because otherwise there's risk of injury to shins and knees as I go crashing through partner's leg. Nor do I want partner swinging me past her, because that would likely result in losing the partnership offset.

 

[ProgressNotPerfection]

OK.... this has reached the point of paralysis by analysis. And, how to frighten a beginner in one easy lesson !!

 

[j_alexandra]

Nice dancing also has the Blackpool lectures from 95. Don’t think it’s quite as pricey.

WDC Blackpool Congress 1995 (4 Videos)

WDC Blackpool Congress 1995 is a collection of 4 instructional MP4 videos featuring live lectures from the World Dance Council Blackpool Congress. Covering Ballroom and Latin choreography, technique, partnering, and performance, the series includes presentations by Donnie Burns & Gaynor...

nicedancing.com

You also get lectures from Anthony Hurley and Benny Tolmeyer and demos from Luca and Lorraine, Schiavo and Caterina. Plus some Latin guys. What could be bad? And it's $59, not $100.

 

[Warren J. Dew]

WDC Blackpool Congress 1995 (4 Videos)

WDC Blackpool Congress 1995 is a collection of 4 instructional MP4 videos featuring live lectures from the World Dance Council Blackpool Congress. Covering Ballroom and Latin choreography, technique, partnering, and performance, the series includes presentations by Donnie Burns & Gaynor...

nicedancing.com

You also get lectures from Anthony Hurley and Benny Tolmeyer and demos from Luca and Lorraine, Schiavo and Caterina. Plus some Latin guys. What could be bad? And it's $59, not $100.

Hurley on Tango and Schiavo on Quickstep. Fairweather on Rumba and McColl on Cha Cha Cha. All good, but some interesting choices there.

 

[Captain Price]

Here is another idea that should help when determining if enough CBM is used: When commencing a turn to the L, check that the LF falls in own track, to the left of a line through the RF, and not in front or across of it (except when CBMP is technically mandated). Strictly speaking this is an issue technically distinct from CBM, but I have noticed that when insufficient CBM is applied, one is likely to encounter this problem. Also check that there is no excessive foot turn out in the left foot. The same applies when turning right, but the partner's leg tends to prevent this.

Typical examples (look in videos of your dancing, or that of others): transition from Feather Step to Reverse Turn, step 2 of the Weave from PP.