Peaches
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As opposed to...???
Is tango easy?
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Look around at a milonga and see how many people you think have mastered this dance. Ask any dancer if they think learning it was easy. I think that provides a clear answer.
I think I addressed your point about basics a while back. To me, the fancy stuff interferes with mastery, and when one has the basics mastered they find no need for fanciness.
Almost none, certainly, but then there are those who have simply missed the point, and are awfully pleased with themselves (and all their moves, usually) but who obviously can't and never will be able to dance.
I think that's a different point. I don't see any reason why fancy stuff should interfere with basics done well, given the prerequisite mastery, but I can quite understand anyone who really is the master of fundamentals being happy not to bother with the fancy stuff at all.
sixela
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I'll consider cooking with it, but for drinking there are much better options. Even for cocktails there usually is.
quixotedlm
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As a general statement, this isn't true. A lot of dancers who've mastered the basics indulge in fanciness just ok.
sixela
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Not all good gardeners end up with a Karesansui garden.
Peaches
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I dunno...a good vodka gimlet? Om nom nom.
I'd say that this is very untrue. I've seen too many people who are not only oblivious to how bad they are, but even think they are quite good! (hey, for all I know, I'm one of them!)
The only people who seem to know they suck are beginners. And of course they aren't any good.. they are beginners. They shouldn't have to be "good" yet.
We are blessed with a wonderful pie shop here that has at least 7 different kinds of Apple pie on their menu. My way of getting the perfect pie is to go buy one!
Most of the followers I know would be a lot more amenable to practicing if they hadn't had so much experience of leaders who constantly correct THEM as though the practice is only for her to be "fixed".
quixotedlm
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That would be less of a problem if followers learned to lead. Yes, I know this is so meta ;-)
Well, where else do we get the chance to say "No, no, that's not what I led ..."
The trouble is that if you think you are leading something properly, and yet the follower doesn't follow as you intend, you need a few repetitions and some experimentation to work it out. The milonga isn't the place for that, but certainly around here, practicas are informal milongas, in disguise, and very few people have come to practise, but to dance.
newbie
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I led something and she did not follow. "What did you want me to do? Oh, ok, this is what I felt but as I am not familiar with that I did not do it".
Nowadays, I only lead things followers are familiar with. Thanks to followers I am getting worse as time goes by. Once in a while there comes a good follower though, and she asks "Hey you used to lead nice things, where is your tango gone?". Torn to shreds by "good-enough" followers.
Nowadays, I only lead things followers are familiar with. Thanks to followers I am getting worse as time goes by. Once in a while there comes a good follower though, and she asks "Hey you used to lead nice things, where is your tango gone?". Torn to shreds by "good-enough" followers.
I'd rather a follower always danced what she felt. At least that way I could improve my leading. I think that I have a responsibility only to lead what is familiar to me, but without any real practice opportunities, that is going to continue to be a small repertoire.
bordertangoman
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yeah but you can do fluckerells or whatever their called..