Job search help

[wonderwoman]

Please feel free to merge if there's another thread...

I need someone who has looked for a hospital job before to tell me if I'm not thinking of another good efficient way of searching.

I've been using Monster but not all employers post on it obviously. In the past, I would go on Google maps and zoom in on the region I want and search hospitals, then go to each listing that comes up and see if they have a position on their site. This is time consuming and leads to opening too many tabs and windows and crashing my browser. After that happens, I start the search over again but have to sift through the ones I've already checked and the results have come up in a different order this time. It's confusing. If I stop for the day I have no idea where I left off when I get back to it.

Can anyone think of a better way of searching for hospital jobs across a very broad region, ie northeast corner of the US.

 

[ireniecat]

I know nothing about hospital jobs, but...
- Are there specialized job boards for hospital jobs? (There are lots of specialized and even local job boards for creative professionals and I imagine other industries)
- Are there recruiters you could work with?
- Have you tried indeed.com? It's pretty handy

 

[wonderwoman]

Well, I've learned two new things today.

Employers are also looking for me. If I post my resume in the places they are looking, they may find me before I find them.

It's beginning to dawn on me.. quite to my dismay.. that there are very well paying jobs in my field offering sign on bonuses and relocation assistance hiding in places I would never think to look. Nobody is thinking to look for them. Because nobody wants to relocate Idaho, or Montana, or North Dakota. But they are there and the more of them I apply to the higher liklihood one of them will hire me simply because nobody else is applying.

I would like to not know this last bit.

 

[skwiggy]

When I was looking to hire a healthcare professional for a particular contract, I discovered several online job boards dedicated to healthcare. Unfortunately I don't have a record of them at the moment, but I know there were quite a few.

You also might want to try searching for groups related to healthcare on linkedin, join those groups, and look at their job boards or start a discussion about what you're looking for.

 

[Ray Sison]

Well, I've learned two new things today.

Employers are also looking for me. If I post my resume in the places they are looking, they may find me before I find them.

It's beginning to dawn on me.. quite to my dismay.. that there are very well paying jobs in my field offering sign on bonuses and relocation assistance hiding in places I would never think to look. Nobody is thinking to look for them. Because nobody wants to relocate Idaho, or Montana, or North Dakota. But they are there and the more of them I apply to the higher liklihood one of them will hire me simply because nobody else is applying.

I would like to not know this last bit.

Your area of expertise is one that has a demand in many places. So some factors that might come into play in weighting a decision are cost of living in a prospective place and/or weather. Along with if it's an interesting place to live in. Some of these things may be important, depending on the person. For others, other things may be important. We're all different, but I hope that no matter what, it works out for you well! GOOD LUCK! *hugs*

 

[wonderwoman]

Actually, I take it back. It's really cool. For example, I got an email about a job in Idaho and started looking up info about Idaho. It's gorgeous. There are a lot of places I've never thought about.

 

[Ray Sison]

Actually, I take it back. It's really cool. For example, I got an email about a job in Idaho and started looking up info about Idaho. It's gorgeous. There are a lot of places I've never thought about.

Oh, yes! That area (and also Utah and Colorado) is beautiful. The great thing is that your professional skills and knowledge are in demand--and I believe that you will have options...

 

[wonderwoman]

I have been making self-limiting excuses

 

[danceronice]

I'd a thousand times rather live in Idaho, North Dakota, or Montana than California or New York, where you have to make tons of money simply to live, forget actually doing anything enjoyable. (Heck, I wouldn't move back to Massachusetts for less than AT LEAST a quarter million a year. After taxes.) And if it's a field where people are willing to pay a lot and cover relocation expenses, it could be a very profitable adventure. And some gorgeous views.

Also, I have never found any kind of job using Monster. I either went through craigslist, word of mouth, or industry-specific job sites. Monster seemed to be a lot of low/entry level stuff in rather generic jobs.

 

[pygmalion]

Also, I have never found any kind of job using Monster. I either went through craigslist, word of mouth, or industry-specific job sites. Monster seemed to be a lot of low/entry level stuff in rather generic jobs.

And a million applicants per posting ( exaggeration.)

I'm sure I've recommended this book before, but take a look at What Color is Your Parachute. There's a chapter that outlines the most effective job search techniques, and they're probably not what you think.

The basic idea behind the chapter is that job seekers tend to approach the search from the opposite direction than employers.

Employers want proven, recommended performers. So they start internally and then move on to people who come with personal recommendations (i.e. through networking) before they go to other sources.

Job seekers tend to start with impersonal approaches, such as online and print job ads, and use networking as a last resort approach.

Not always, of course. Just as a general rule. Something to think about. I can't recommend that book enough. It's been in print for what? Almost 40 years? For a reason, I think.

 

[Peaches]

I'd a thousand times rather live in Idaho, North Dakota, or Montana than California or New York, where you have to make tons of money simply to live, forget actually doing anything enjoyable. (Heck, I wouldn't move back to Massachusetts for less than AT LEAST a quarter million a year. After taxes.) And if it's a field where people are willing to pay a lot and cover relocation expenses, it could be a very profitable adventure. And some gorgeous views.

Also, I have never found any kind of job using Monster. I either went through craigslist, word of mouth, or industry-specific job sites. Monster seemed to be a lot of low/entry level stuff in rather generic jobs.

Wow. That is one.hell of a standard of living you've got for yourself. I can only dream of a standard of living like that. (And, FTR, I make damn good money in the grand scheme of things.) I'm close to DC, which according to a brief Google search (very scientific, I know) ranks higher than Boston when it comes to cost of living...and I can't even begin to imagine what $250k after taxes looks like in terms of standard of living.

Ho-lee crap. Wow.

 

[skwiggy]

IMonster seemed to be a lot of low/entry level stuff in rather generic jobs.

FWIW, I found my current job on Monster 8 1/2 years ago, and it is neither low/entry level, nor generic.

 

[pygmalion]

I haven't been on Monster in years, so I don't know what kinds of openings they have. I don't remember their being focused on entry level, but I can't be sure. It's been years. *shrug*

I do know that the state unemployment database no longer has just the stereotypical minimum wage jobs. I was quite surprised, when I was looking for a job the last go 'round. There were quite a few fairly high level engineering and research jobs posted. (As well as good jobs in other fields, no doubt. I just happened to be looking at techie stuff.)

From my perspective, the biggest issue is that, by the time I see a job posted, there are many, many other people who see and apply for the posting too, thereby decreasing my chances, no matter how qualified I am.

 

[Zhena]

Wow. That is one.hell of a standard of living you've got for yourself. I can only dream of a standard of living like that. (And, FTR, I make damn good money in the grand scheme of things.) I'm close to DC, which according to a brief Google search (very scientific, I know) ranks higher than Boston when it comes to cost of living...and I can't even begin to imagine what $250k after taxes looks like in terms of standard of living.

Ho-lee crap. Wow.

Actually, I think you probably could imagine it. I'm going compare your situation to doi's, making some assumptions, so each of you can feel free to correct me if I don't understand.

If I recall correctly, you live in a relatively rural area and have a truly horrible commute. When your chose where to live, you started with what you could afford and found your solution by balancing several criteria ... let's call them "house" for the physical (size, floorplan, deck, other internal amenities) and "neighborhood" for the external (commute time, distance from neighbors, views, external amenities like shopping and restaurants, etc.). So you kept "price" as a constant and let "house" and "neighborhood" be the variables.

Suppose you changed the equation to keep "house" and "neighborhood" as the constant and let "price" be the variable. Where is the area CLOSEST TO YOUR JOB that you would consider minimally acceptable as far as your personal criteria for "neighborhood"? What is the price in that neighborhood for a house similar to the one you live in? What is the minimum annual income necessary to be able to afford that house? I'm guessing that in or near DC that minimum is going to pretty high.

Now consider doi's situation. She stated the minimum income she would need to provide what she has now in rural area. In addition to a reasonable commute, she currently has a horse. The closer you get to an urban area, the more expensive it is to keep a horse. You either have to have "horse property" which (I don't need to tell you) means a fair chunk of real estate, or access to a place to board the horse, which means boarding fees ... which get pretty high when real estate values are high. So she lives where she does partly because it doesn't cost as much to have what she values, and she wouldn't move back to Massachusetts unless she could still have it. Therefore she wouldn't do it unless she could make the salary that could cover those expenses. Given those criteria, her decision to live where she does sounds reasonable to me. She gives up the advantages of an urban area (including opportunities for dancing), but she gets what she values more.

 

[Ray Sison]

Actually, I think you probably could imagine it. I'm going compare your situation to doi's, making some assumptions, so each of you can feel free to correct me if I don't understand.

If I recall correctly, you live in a relatively rural area and have a truly horrible commute. When your chose where to live, you started with what you could afford and found your solution by balancing several criteria ... let's call them "house" for the physical (size, floorplan, deck, other internal amenities) and "neighborhood" for the external (commute time, distance from neighbors, views, external amenities like shopping and restaurants, etc.). So you kept "price" as a constant and let "house" and "neighborhood" be the variables.

Suppose you changed the equation to keep "house" and "neighborhood" as the constant and let "price" be the variable. Where is the area CLOSEST TO YOUR JOB that you would consider minimally acceptable as far as your personal criteria for "neighborhood"? What is the price in that neighborhood for a house similar to the one you live in? What is the minimum annual income necessary to be able to afford that house? I'm guessing that in or near DC that minimum is going to pretty high.

Now consider doi's situation. She stated the minimum income she would need to provide what she has now in rural area. In addition to a reasonable commute, she currently has a horse. The closer you get to an urban area, the more expensive it is to keep a horse. You either have to have "horse property" which (I don't need to tell you) means a fair chunk of real estate, or access to a place to board the horse, which means boarding fees ... which get pretty high when real estate values are high. So she lives where she does partly because it doesn't cost as much to have what she values, and she wouldn't move back to Massachusetts unless she could still have it. Therefore she wouldn't do it unless she could make the salary that could cover those expenses. Given those criteria, her decision to live where she does sounds reasonable to me. She gives up the advantages of an urban area (including opportunities for dancing), but she gets what she values more.

Very well stated. It really depends upon the individual (or family) and what is viewed as important values and conditions for quality of life. After I am done with school, I have my own decisions about possible relocation to make...