my tango lexicon
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bordertangoman
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perhaps there is a parallel universe where this does exist....
Subliminal
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Hmmm... feeling rather foolish right now.
Good post, BTW.
Lol, thanks, but my post was a question. I was just trying to figure out if that's the sequence opendoor was talking about.
Mad Tango Scientist
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You can take the molinete and "unwrap" it into a line. Another way to think about it is that the pivot point moves in a line. Because of this the person doing the molinete cannot get around the pivot point and just moves forward. It can also be done in a curve or a tight curve along the circumference of a small circle. It can be done by just one person (while the other is moving the pivot point in some way, for instance by walking) or it can be done by both who can either mirror it or "mimic" it. I have seen it in social dancing and I have done it myself, but it has limited uses. It is not a "natural" movement, because it takes a good follow who has practiced it to be able to land a good side step after the back or front step (which also unnaturally torques the leg a lot and may be bad for the knees) and most follows will land with a diagonal step not allowing for a back or front after the sidestep. I have noticed that if you cut it in half and repeat, it's much easier and feels more natural, so you would get front side, front side and can be mirrored to get the promenade. Back, side, back, side, etc. also works and feels great socially.
opendoor
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Hey, that "unwrapping a molinete" really is a striking expression :applause:
Yes, and not to speak of the required torsion, because the forward ocho of the follower is an overturned one.
tangobro
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I haven't heard escapada, but I have heard molinete en linea. Molinete to describe the 3 step sequence forward-side-back, or back-side-forward. Molinete can literally mean windmill, but I've been told that in Tango it describes the step sequence, the steps can be in a giro (turn) or a linea (line). Several teachers from Argentina have mentioned that in the Academias they 1st teach the molinete en linea, then later integrate the steps in a giro, and continue to use the molinete en linea as a drill.
here Isabel Acuna does it @ about 1:32 While dancing with Andrés Laza Moreno to Tanturi's "Una Emocion":
Here Alberto Paz does a slight variation & calls it a "media luna" at about :25
here Isabel Acuna does it @ about 1:32 While dancing with Andrés Laza Moreno to Tanturi's "Una Emocion":
Here Alberto Paz does a slight variation & calls it a "media luna" at about :25
tangobro
Active Member
Although the couple in the example, Andres Moreno & Isabel Acuna, dance in what many call Villa Urquiza style, the molinete en linea as a term, and as a sequence was introduced to me by teachers who were not from Villa Urquiza & did not dance in that style, one was from Tucuman, another from Bs. As.
opendoor
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Yes, I think they´ve stolen it from these escenario guys. Anyway I find, that VU stylist from BsAs (at least the ones I know) always eye their stage cousins instead of their salón brothers. Take a look at the championships: the vocabulary of salón (today almost identical with VU) and escenario are more or less the same now. Only the proportion of walking, the coupling of figures, and the use of space at least still differ.