NCDC: Syllabus Dress Code
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It's always your choice to be ticked, if you want. *shrug* Once you've formally complained and maybe whined a bit, there's not a whole lot you can do, other than acknowledge we live in an imperfect world.
In a perfect world, the nitwit who weaves through traffic at 85 mph in a 70 zone, cutting people off and causing near accidents would get a ticket every time. In reality, he/she usually doesn't get caught. C'est la vie. Is it right? No. Is it real? Pretty much, yeah. No point in my wasting a lot of emotion on it, IMHO.
And re: volunteer organizations needing to man up to get taken seriously, well. Maybe. Having run more than a few volunteer orgs over the years, no offense, doi (and knowing you, I doubt you'll take any since it's a general observation and not about you personally
) I think it's easy to criticize from the cheap seats. Volunteer. Get in the game, and maybe see another perspective. Maybe not, I admit, but maybe. *shrug*
Joe
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Or maybe you should take some ownership of your complaint, and bring any perceived violations to the attention of those responsible for policing violations.
If you're eating breakfast and see someone smash your car's window, unlock the door, get in, hotwire the car and drive off, do you just go back to your coffee, assuming the cops will get around to looking for your car eventually?
If you're eating breakfast and see someone smash your car's window, unlock the door, get in, hotwire the car and drive off, do you just go back to your coffee, assuming the cops will get around to looking for your car eventually?
danceronice
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And re: volunteer organizations needing to man up to get taken seriously, well. Maybe. Having run more than a few volunteer orgs over the years, no offense, doi (and knowing you, I doubt you'll take any since it's a general observation and not about you personally
Been there, done that, with kids, which (ideally) are harder to wrangle than allegedly-responsible adults. We have to go through formal training, interviews, and background checks, and it's made clear as far as competitive aspects go, *we are responsible for knowing the rules.* (Not going to volunteer for USA Dance--there's no benefit to me. I only do NDCA events and I've never seen any reason as an adult sylabus-level dancer to switch. They don't really offer me anything except a bunch of goofball costume rules. Yes, I think the rules in question are just stupid--but they're the rules.)
And again, if we were talking about little things at dime-store events, that's one thing, if it's a major event and rules are getting *selectively* enforced, they really need to reconsider how they handle it. Or reconsidered. When there are six or seven couples in the on-deck, how hard IS it to look at something as obvious as an open-collar shirt? Pinstripes on trousers, okay, and I don't really see why those aren't allowed anyway, but nailing people in early rounds where it's a zoo and then just letting the finalists slide is certainly going to annoy dancers who are there, and just reinforce to people like me it's not a system worth buying into.
Griffico
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Ya know, in the end very little of this actually matters. At the NCDC if you pick a good spot on the floor, your dancing is good, your clothes fit (don't hide anything or make anything look worse) and you don't look like you just woke up half an hour ago, you will be found by the judges.
For that matter, ever see a couple decked out in a tailsuit and gown (or arbitrary latin equivalent) and thought how nice they looked, only to completely reverse that thought when they actually started moving? Happens all the time at comps that allow full costume at syllabus levels.
For that matter, ever see a couple decked out in a tailsuit and gown (or arbitrary latin equivalent) and thought how nice they looked, only to completely reverse that thought when they actually started moving? Happens all the time at comps that allow full costume at syllabus levels.
Bailamosdance
Forum Master
The on deck people could have been empowered to manage this - or as it usually is at the USADance comps I've been to recently, at registration. It must have been incredibly disheartening to be in proper attire and lose to someone who was so obviously flaunting the rules - and see the invigilator not disqualify them - and then be told by the comp people that since they were just volunteering, that they should be allowed to slide and the poor dancer who played by the rules should suck it up.
Bailamosdance
Forum Master
I disagree. Proper costuming highlights your body in many ways that can add a lot to the look. And the fairly lame costumes that are required are i many ways detrimental to the look. Finally, not adhering to the comp's dictates is bad sportsmanship and is incredibly insulting to those who do.
Since the rules say 'not allowed', perhaps those in illegal costumes should be seen for what they are.
danceronice
Forum Master
Yes, but the point stands there are rules not being enforced or enforced selectively. Given the number of questions on here about what does or doesn't constitute a reflective element and do the tiny rhinestones some companies put on the buckles of their shoes violate the rules, some people probably ARE genuinely unclear on what does or doesn't qualify (I'm still not sure why pinstripes are apparently the devil.) Sure, some probably are just blatantly ignoring the rule--but apparently the organizers don't care because they're making finals and winning and no one's saying anything or stopping them.
dlliba10
Forum Master
Slightly off topic, but FWIW, I was at a comp recently where a Bronze Smooth dancer was wearing a tailsuit that was about two sizes too big for him, and in addition, he didn't really have any technique or moves to really justify it ... It was rather painful to watch.
Joe
Forum Master
Technically, you have to do it in the semifinal, when it's 12-14 couples on deck.
danceronice
Forum Master
I've been a ring steward. (Think deck captain, only the people ignoring you are on 1200 lbs animals.) It's not THAT hard to look people over. Yes, people may bitch at you if you say "That's got to come off", but rules are rules. If one person has to follow them, everyone should.
(And if you're dancing close enough to a level where you'll be allowed the good costumes, you should know the rules by now and not be surprised, either...)
Bailamosdance
Forum Master
I think it is a delegating issue - all that had to be done at this comp was to delegate the costume check to someone. The deck folks or the folks at the front door are obvious places. The invigilator is also charged with rule keeping too, no?
Syllabus is tough enough to dance and score without having these problems.