Nuevo Tango does Tango Milonguero?

[jantango]

I don't know the DNI studio nor its teaching staff. I only know Pablo and Dana when they performed on stage at the Campeonato Mundial. I lost count how many times she raised her foot to shoulder height. They teach at festivals where other tango nuevo couples teach. Birds of a feather flock together.

I have a friend who finally decided he would study with Ricardo Vidort on his next visit to Buenos Aires. I informed him that it was too late--Ricardo died. My friend was only a few years younger than Ricardo at the time, but he spent years studying with performers and got nowhere with his social dancing. He missed the opportunity to study with a great milonguero who spoke English and was a generous teacher.

Next trip? I only hope they are still around and able to teach. Pedro Sanchez will be 74 on August 27. He is in good health and hopes to travel to Europe next year.

 

[ant]

study with Ricardo Vidort on his next visit to Buenos Aires. I informed him that it was too late--Ricardo died.

One of the teachers I most respect in the UK frequently states that RV had the greatest and most profound influence on his dancing.

Are there others of his stature that are still available for lessons in B's A's and if so who are they?

 

[dchester]

Next trip? I only hope they are still around and able to teach. Pedro Sanchez will be 74 on August 27. He is in good health and hopes to travel to Europe next year.

At some point all of the true milongueros will pass away. I'm hoping that they have already been successful in teaching their techniques to others already. If they have not, then there's no hope for the rest of us anyways.

If none of the original milongueros are available by the time I make it back, hopefully I can learn from one of their proteges.

 

[Zoopsia59]

As for the original question, I'm more interested in whether an intensive seminar can actually work. Isnt it too much to take in? Dont you need to learn then digest? It's convenient for the teachers of course, but less so I think for the students.

Its been my experience that you have to have some solid tango experience to be able to benefit from an intensive immersion. I took a 2 day (6 hours per) workshop weekend when I had only been learning tango for about a year.

It was WAY too much and I was almost in tears at one point, even though it was taught by my own teacher's teachers and therefore should have been building on what I had been learning.

Personally, I don't think this kind of thing is useful for anyone below the advanced-intermediate stage. At a certain point, you just can't take in any more. That point sorta depends on how much you already know, as well as what kind of learner you are.

IMO, the ratio of practice to instruction needs to be weighted towards practice for almost any learning experience or subject matter. I can often take ONE deceptively simple concept/correction and spend WEEKS (if not months) trying to implement it in practice. I had an opportunity to take another private from one of my favorite (visiting) follower teachers less than 2 months after the previous one. I turned it down because I was still working on consistently doing what she had already given me.

 

[dchester]

Its been my experience that you have to have some solid tango experience to be able to benefit from an intensive immersion. I took a 2 day (6 hours per) workshop weekend when I had only been learning tango for about a year.

It was WAY too much and I was almost in tears at one point, even though it was taught by my own teacher's teachers and therefore should have been building on what I had been learning.

Personally, I don't think this kind of thing is useful for anyone below the advanced-intermediate stage. At a certain point, you just can't take in any more. That point sorta depends on how much you already know, as well as what kind of learner you are.

IMO, the ratio of practice to instruction needs to be weighted towards practice for almost any learning experience or subject matter. I can often take ONE deceptively simple concept/correction and spend WEEKS (if not months) trying to implement it in practice. I had an opportunity to take another private from one of my favorite (visiting) follower teachers less than 2 months after the previous one. I turned it down because I was still working on consistently doing what she had already given me.

My experience has been a little different. For me, immersion appears to be very helpful. We all have to guard against both physical and mental fatigue. For me, as long as I can understand what they are trying to teach, I don't get mentally fatigued. However, I do get mentally fatigued if I don't understand what they are explaining (the concept or technique). The trick is to ask the right questions when confused.

As for managing the physical fatigue, you just have to go at your own pace, and if you need a break before others, just take it, while continuing to watch.

I always feel that if I can understand the concepts or techniques, I can incorporate them eventually (even if I'm too tired to do it that day). Taking some notes of the key points (right after class, or as soon as you get a chance), can be really helpful, as well.

 

[jantango]

One of the teachers I most respect in the UK frequently states that RV had the greatest and most profound influence on his dancing.

Are there others of his stature that are still available for lessons in B's A's and if so who are they?

London was fortunate a few years ago to have Ricardo Vidort teaching when Jill Barrett organized classes for him.

There are very few milongueros who have done any teaching. The majority only want to dance in the milongas if they are still well enough to attend and have the money to spend.

Those who teach in Buenos Aires are:
Pedro Sanchez - tango, vals and milonga
Ernesto "El Flaco Dany" Garcia - milonga con traspie
Beto Ayala - tango and vals
Eduardo Masci - tango and vals

 

[ant]

Those who teach in Buenos Aires are:
Pedro Sanchez - tango, vals and milonga
Ernesto "El Flaco Dany" Garcia - milonga con traspie
Beto Ayala - tango and vals
Eduardo Masci - tango and vals

Many thanks

 

[Heather2007]

If they have not, then there's no hope for the rest of us anyways.

Yes there is. You learn what you can. Take it to another level. Develop your own style (as all the greats did in all forms of artistry) and then...and then...you later get to pass on all that knowledge to those that are up and coming. And so the cyle re-starts. :tongue: