Rockstep Rut

passiontango said:
I noticed that many leaders have dancing patterns and and from the followers point of view it is good to have predictable moves although once in a while it feels good to be surprised. I prefer to be surprised from time to time and have predictable patterns for most of the dance. I am intermediate follower. For more advanced followers it might be different.
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Thanks for the point of view passiontango. :)
 
The spanish word "Rebote" literally translates to "rebound"; so I teach it as a direction change where you start transferring weight onto one foot then push off the floor towards a different direction (without completely transferring weight onto that first foot; if you do you will lead the lady to a collection). It often help to think of rebounds not in terms of your body mechanics, but in terms of the lady's, i.e. making her rebound off the floor towards a different a direction. Does that sound reasonable?
 
salthepal said:
The spanish word "Rebote" literally translates to "rebound"; so I teach it as a direction change where you start transferring weight onto one foot then push off the floor towards a different direction (without completely transferring weight onto that first foot; if you do you will lead the lady to a collection). It often help to think of rebounds not in terms of your body mechanics, but in terms of the lady's, i.e. making her rebound off the floor towards a different a direction. Does that sound reasonable?
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Sounds to me like a rock step. If I lead my partner to take a rock step that I don't take, is that a robote?
 
If I take a side step to the left and bounce, while leading a bouncing side step to her left (my right) to my partner, is it a rebote?
 
salthepal said:
I would call that a rebote...
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Ja, these are rebotes (so as the classical rockstep is also one)

youtube.com/watch?v=7vWnZew9cb4
0:19 small mirrors on either side in double tempo
0:28 the latter of the three back sacadas in double tempo

youtube.com/watch?v=fLjnnJbqns8
2:28 the quick change from left to right foot in double time
 
opendoor said:
Ja, these are rebotes (so as the classical rockstep is also one)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vWnZew9cb4
0:19 small mirrors on either side in double tempo
0:28 the latter of the three back sacadas in double tempo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLjnnJbqns8
2:28 the quick change from left to right foot in double time
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Here is another demo from a class on rebotes.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu7079A-omA&t=7m24s
 
dchester said:
For the record, I don't know what the definition of a rebote is (nor do I really care). The single class I had on rebotes, (which in that class were different from rock steps), left me thinking I had no interest in them.
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I quite agree with this this. I cant find a useful definition of rebote.The only rebound I ever learned was a cross lead, where the woman arrives at a cross, doesnt transfer her weight but exits to the man's left in a forward step; and that it was an energetic change of direction, wwith a feel closer to a linear boleo than a rockstep.
 
bordertangoman said:
I quite agree with this this. I cant find a useful definition of rebote.The only rebound I ever learned was a cross lead, where the woman arrives at a cross, doesnt transfer her weight but exits to the man's left in a forward step; and that it was an energetic change of direction, wwith a feel closer to a linear boleo than a rockstep.
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I don't want to try and turn this into another 'crossover' discussion, but there is a useful parallel to draw with a Latin 'checked forward walk' (at least for leading these steps). It gives me an off-the-shelf understanding of the essential difference between taking a step which I intend to reverse, and one where I intend to come over the standing foot into another. It has a lot to do with dividing body weight, and using muscle effort in the legs to cause the torso to make quite small but definite movements between the feet.
 
I always start off a rockstep with the right foot. I know why this is - when I started ballroom tango in 1962, that was the way I was taught. Now rocking on the left just seems awkward.
 
I do rock steps with the left foot when starting like a "6" of the 8CB, and with the right foot when starting from a "3". In each case I turn CCW.
 
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