Salsa diplomacy in the middle east! :)

latindia

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Thomas Friedman once argued that no two countries with a MacDonalds would ever fight a war against each other.

Can Salsa do in the Middle East what several wars and negotiations couldn't?

The Christian Science Monitor asks "What if it could be proved that no two nations that play salsa music have ever declared war on each other?"

http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/1005/p01s04-wosc.html

Go salser@s!
:banana:
Raj
 
Wow. This has to be one of the most interesting questions ever asked on the forums. Unfortunately, my realistic side kicked in after a few seconds of euphoria, imagining the peaceful possibilities. Even if it is true that no two nations where salsa is a predominant musical style have ever declared war on each other, that alone isn't proof that salsa=peace. You can declare war on your own people just the same, like Trujillo, the former dictator of the Dominican Republic who was a HUGE merengue fan. Or, like a long string of US-puppet dictators in Cuba who supported comparsa, son, danzon, cha-cha-cha, and other popular styles (I'd mention another loser too, Fidel Castro, but it's well documented that he doesn't care for music very much). Or, like all the corrupt loser politicians in Colombia (home to some of the world's greatest salsa) who sell their soul, their people, and their country out to the interests of the drug cartels.

But still, it's a question worth considering. In my collection I have mostly salsa/Latin but I have a fair amount of Rai (an Algerian secular music that originated in brothels but moved on to become a popular music of the people, then was banned by Algerian Islamic extremist goverment, after which Rai music moved with Algerian exiles to France), popular African styles, Some Turkish pop from Tarkan and others, and a fair bit of Bhangra from India, etc., and I always marvel at how well those styles relate to each other. I also marvel at how people who love salsa music usually take well to those other types of music, and that makes me think that there's a potential there for understanding that leads to an appreciation of other cultures and therefore to peace.

And, once again, who are the people who don't like music and dancing? Fidel Castro, who has made himself a religion, the Taliban, for instance, the Algerian extremists who banned Rai music and even assiniated one of the biggest Rai stars, Cheb Hasni, in 1994, John Ashcroft (someone here on the forums used to have a great anti-dance quote from Ashcroft, something about how dance is the devil's palsy), and other religious wackos. They are the biggest problem we face, I think.

In Dubai, the United Arab Emirates, I hear that you can dance to salsa seven nights a week. It's also the most liberal, and most economically developed country in the Middle East. It's like Hong Kong on the Arabian Gulf. They've also got most of the crazy Islamic fundamemtalists in check, even though it is still an Islamic country with Islamic rules. But still, salsa is very popular there. There's definetely something to that, something very important.
 
Hmmm... most of the music referred to in the article seems to be latin pop or Gypsy Kings-style rumba flamenco.

Definitely "salsa" in the, ahem, *broadest* sense of the word...
 
latindia said:
Thomas Friedman once argued that no two countries with a MacDonalds would ever fight a war against each other.

Can Salsa do in the Middle East what several wars and negotiations couldn't?

The Christian Science Monitor asks "What if it could be proved that no two nations that play salsa music have ever declared war on each other?"

http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/1005/p01s04-wosc.html

Go salser@s!
:banana:
Raj

So they won't wage *conventional war* with eacjh other... But what about STYLE wars? On1, On2, etc etc?
 
latindia said:
DancingMommy said:
So they won't wage *conventional war* with eacjh other... But what about STYLE wars? On1, On2, etc etc?

Isn't THAT kinda war a good thing? :D

Raj

Depends, lol.... I've seen some of those On1 and On2 folks really mix it up.....
 
salseiro said:
Hmmm... most of the music referred to in the article seems to be latin pop or Gypsy Kings-style rumba flamenco.

Definitely "salsa" in the, ahem, *broadest* sense of the word...

AHEM...Do I detect a bit of salsa snobbery in your comment?
 
djpatricio said:
Sagitta said:
amr diab? hmmm...never heard of him...

Neither have I but I just bought his CD from Amazon a few minutes ago. I'll let you know how it sounds when I get it!
He's Egyptian. I bought his CD while in Morocco back in 2001. Very good, some disco-dancin' hardstuff there. Latin influence in their music is very apparent now(as was on Diab's 2001 CD). I love Rai music too, especially Cheb Mami and Khaled. I hope to pick up a bunch more while in Tunisia next year.
 

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