simple quickstep

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Kitty

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my friend who is a beginner bronze dancer needs a quickstep routine.

what is not too complex for a fresh out of newcomer person?
the only thing he knows right now is quater turns and chasse basic combination...


I was thinking spin turn, double reverse spins and so on... but thats too difficult. He needs to learn to dance different steps and alignments, but something not too difficult.

any ideas? for a newcomer/ beginner bronze routine?


back or forward lock would be great
maybe a tipple? or a running finish? what else?
 
I am helping out with the NYU team tonight and will be doing quickstep.

The plan is:
Quarter turn to RT
progressive chasez
forward lock
outside natural
spin turn
back to progressive chasez

than maybe forward lock qtr turn progressive chasez etc...
 
Katarzyna said:
I am helping out with the NYU team tonight and will be doing quickstep.

The plan is:
Quarter turn to RT
progressive chasez
forward lock
outside natural
spin turn
back to progressive chasez

than maybe forward lock qtr turn progressive chasez etc...
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tried that
spin turn was too hard for him...
think newcomer...
 
Kitty said:
Katarzyna said:
I am helping out with the NYU team tonight and will be doing quickstep.

The plan is:
Quarter turn to RT
progressive chasez
forward lock
outside natural
spin turn
back to progressive chasez

than maybe forward lock qtr turn progressive chasez etc...
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tried that
spin turn was too hard for him...
think newcomer...
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My group should be "advanced" but they are really not even close to bronze. They are all struggling with the spin turn, but they have to learn it somehow...

why don't you let him just do the qtr turn, chasez and lock... that's enough to get him moving... if he can't manage the spin...
 
cause he can do them pretty well

this team always starts newcomers on very plain quater turn-chasse combo and natural and reverse turns in waltz. he's gone through that. He needs to learn to combine different figures.
 
Agree with Chris, the natural w/ back lock and running finish is a nice and fairly easy combo.

Another possibility is putting a natural turn at the corner of your sequence instead of the spin turn. Makes it really easy for new folks since you can do the 1/4 turn, prog. chasse, forward lock as many times as necessary for long side, use a natural at the corner and you are back to where you started alignment-wise. Of course, the downside is that the natural's timing (SSS) is kind of boring compared to the running finish.

It would be very useful to be able to do a running finish after 1-3 of a natural turn, but I believe that is non-syllabus (anyone got a loophole there?)
 
wyllo said:
It would be very useful to be able to do a running finish after 1-3 of a natural turn, but I believe that is non-syllabus (anyone got a loophole there?)
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You'd need to get to outside partner somehow - because of that little technicality, natural turn - back lock is actually defined as a uniqe figure with the back lock commenced inside partner, seperate from the normal outside partner case.

If there's no room for natural-back lock-running finish? How about a natural pivot turn?
 
We've been wanting to try quickstep, but aren't sure if we're ready. When would be most prudent? After you've gotten in a lot of foxtrot and such?
 
Depanding if you are talking international or american foxtrot. I would definitely recommend looking at quickstep bafore international foxtrot. If you worked on american foxtrot, you will find that all the steps are very similar in quickstep, but with different timing ... quickstep is one of the easiest dances to begin with I think.. especially the basic...
 
Grizzabella said:
We've been wanting to try quickstep, but aren't sure if we're ready. When would be most prudent? After you've gotten in a lot of foxtrot and such?
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Quickstep should be easier for beginners than foxtrot. I think that after you are somewhat comfortable with waltz, you can start to learn quickstep. The beginner quickstep really isn't "quick."
 
We've been doing both foxtrots, actually- and I don't know which will be offered in group next month, but that's a bit of a confidence boost. I don't know why, but only like two people at our studio DO quickstep. I think it looks fun as hell. I'll ask about that tomorrow at our private.
 
While the most obvious purpose in learning quickstep is of course to dance it, a side benefit that might be worth looking into is the degree to which the syllabus quickstep as danced today constitutes a study in outside partner position.

It doesn't take long to learn to accomplish outside partner by some means, but learning to do it right is a habit that can take some time to develop, so might as well start working on it early.

The specific thing to stress would be the stretched CBMP/side lead body position, sort of what would result from putting your left arm behind your neck and your right index finger through your right side belt loop and pulling those two points apart, while softening into the legs. That's exactly the position to go for when your partner is stepping outside you, and when you are stepping outside your partner the body position is the same but the body brings the right leg forward and across the left one (the feet will be on the same line rather than crossed, but the legs will cross at the top of the thighs). These positions have the hips rotated or featherd toward the partner so that you can step outside them, without ending up the dreaded "four hips wide".

While the men will struggle with the forward action, If the lady can really master the backwards partner outside action - moving back with the right hip under the shoulder or even projecting a bit in an almost sitting movement, this can give a degree of ease to the movement and fix the all to common look of falling backwards in an attempt to stay out of her partner's way. In effect, she needs to keep her body in the way, but make space with the stretched position of the right hip.

Also watch out for the dreaded lowering heel lead (in place of the proper TH) out of the progressive chasse. It may not be there now, but it's likely to sneak in at some point.
 
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