So You Think You Can Dance Season 8

[Prestigious]

i think chelsie hightower can only do next week show, so if her get by next week i don't know what going do, but DWTS is not playing nice with this

Chelsie said that she was only able to do one show, due to a conflict with her DWTS contract. She said that she was extremely grateful that they allowed her to do that much. Whether she is just saying that or they really did go out of their way to make it happen, i don't know, but it definitely was great seeing her back!

love this new format! we get a whole new batch of all stars next week?? SWEEEEEEET!

my thoughts....

marko & chelsea. samba w/ jason G.
sorry marko, i didnt see you at all. im such a huge chelsea fan.

I have to agree... even when i watched it back on YouTube (well, that was the only way i could watch it seeing as I am in Australia), i found it hard to focus on what he was doing. I did notice that his Volta's weren't as sharp as they could have been, and his bachacadas were mostly done in the leg, however he had very admirable hip action. It was quite well done.

I did notice Chelsie called Jason Gilkison "Gilkinson" in the package... just a trivial thing :tongue:

 

[Steve Pastor]

caitlynn & pasha. arg tango w/ miriam & leonardo.
i didnt get why the judges liked this so much. i thought her legs were horrible. she was too far apart from him pretty much the entire time.

Because it's Tango and it's HOT!
Us ATers have known for a long time that the judges don't know much about AT, although they do have the names for the "moves".

I really liked the choice of music here. I KNOW that song from somewhere. Maybe it was in the sound track of one of the tango films? To me it was classic Argentine Tango. Hope we hear more of that.

 

[dancelvr]

Only two comments...

The AT routine was ok, but yeah....she was too far from her partner most of the time, and the feet and legs were lacking.

The VW....*sigh* Are we EVER going to see a real VW on this show? Still waiting for that.

I'll add that I'm becoming bored with contemporary style dance. I really wish the judges would balance the field with more varied dancers. Like, for the top 20...lets say...5 contemporary, 5 ballroom, 5 broadway/jazz, and 5 hip-hop/krump/b-boy(girl)...or something like that. It would make the show more interesting IMHO.

 

[White Chacha]

...The VW....*sigh* Are we EVER going to see a real VW on this show? Still waiting for that.
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It was nice, but agreed that it lacked in VW-ness. And, once again, a total lack of any closed work. Props for the shadow turns, and the seamlessness of the lifts.

 

[duffypratt]

Only two comments...

The AT routine was ok, but yeah....she was too far from her partner most of the time, and the feet and legs were lacking.

The VW....*sigh* Are we EVER going to see a real VW on this show? Still waiting for that.

I'll add that I'm becoming bored with contemporary style dance. I really wish the judges would balance the field with more varied dancers. Like, for the top 20...lets say...5 contemporary, 5 ballroom, 5 broadway/jazz, and 5 hip-hop/krump/b-boy(girl)...or something like that. It would make the show more interesting IMHO.

I tend to agree with you, but it's pretty clear that the audience likes contemporary dance. This season, there have been 12 contemporary performances, and only one of them landed in the bottom (this week's dance by Jordan). By contrast, there have been 14 ballroom or latin dances, and 7 of those wound up in the bottom. That's pretty telling, and this season, if you got lucky enough to draw a Bollywood program, it's a ticket directly off the show. If the audience favors contemporary dance, then it makes sense for the producers to load the show up with dancers who are good at it.

 

[bia]

I tend to agree with you, but it's pretty clear that the audience likes contemporary dance. This season, there have been 12 contemporary performances, and only one of them landed in the bottom (this week's dance by Jordan). By contrast, there have been 14 ballroom or latin dances, and 7 of those wound up in the bottom. That's pretty telling, and this season, if you got lucky enough to draw a Bollywood program, it's a ticket directly off the show. If the audience favors contemporary dance, then it makes sense for the producers to load the show up with dancers who are good at it.

And if the show is loaded up with dancers who are specialists in contemporary dance, then it makes sense that the contemporary routines are at a higher level, and (therefore?) more popular with the audience. And around in circles we go. I can't personally speak to this season, though; after watching all the others starting with season 2, I got bored early this year and stopped watching.

 

[duffypratt]

And if the show is loaded up with dancers who are specialists in contemporary dance, then it makes sense that the contemporary routines are at a higher level, and (therefore?) more popular with the audience. And around in circles we go. I can't personally speak to this season, though; after watching all the others starting with season 2, I got bored early this year and stopped watching.

In general, I think I agree with this. But it looks like the non-contemporary dancers tend to be safe when they dance contemporary as well. When you put the non hip-hop dancers in a hip-hop routine, there is a good chance it will end up in the bottom three. Same goes for non-Broadway and non-Jazz. Those all are dangerous draws. But contemporary tends to be safe for everyone.

I've only looked at these results a little bit. I bet you the show's producers are very, very familiar with how different things fare with the audience. Not only that, but they know more, since they have access to the raw numbers and we only get to see the bottom 3 or 4.

 

[dancelvr]

I'm thinking the last few posts are correct, in that the public prefers contemporary dance...and, that is unfortunate. Ah well. The more contemporary the show becomes, the less I will watch. I'm down to recording it, fast forwarding through everything I don't want to see, and skipping the results show altogether. Bummer.

 

[Casayoto]

I'm wondering if the public doesn't prefer contemporary dancing as much as they prefer good choreography. Maybe if the ballroom routines weren't watered down ballroom/contemporary hybrids, they would do better. The waltz last week just looked to me like a halfway decent contemporary piece. There were only 2 measures of actual waltz in it.

 

[NonieS]

I have completely lost interest in this season.... I remember being enthralled by the Danny/Neil/Pasha/Sabra/etc season, and cannot for the life of me care about this season in any way shape or form. I think that there has just been a lack of performances that really moved me. They have all been rather generic, and the dancers seem generic... I have trouble keeping them apart and remembering who they are, with the exception of a select few.

Plus the fact that I want to punch my eyeballs every time they do a "ballroom" or "latin" routine isn't helping any.

I haven't watched the most recent episodes... I got bored after the second live week, so have only caught snippets whenever I walk in while my roommates are watching. From the looks of things, I haven't missed much.

 

[NonieS]

As much as I say I would love seeing actual ballroom on the show, the flip side of things is that contemporary dancers would have trouble learning actual ballroom technique since it is so different from any of their other training. Watching them do a basic bronze routine would be boring, and watching them flail their way through an actual complicated syllabus or open routine would be excruciating... so the only way we can make this not overtly awful for the general public is to have them fudge through a mostly contemporary routine with some terribly executed ballroom steps thrown in as an afterthought. Imagine the whole routine like those two steps they do in closed hold?? The ballroom dances would probably be more of a death sentence than they are already, sadly. Even a non-dancer would know it was not right.


Then again, if we actually had a diverse mix of dancers on this show instead of just contemporary, we could actually see quality ballroom, hip hop, maybe even some tap routines that could accurately portray these styles they way they are meant to be performed. OMG imagine that!!!

 

[Ithink]

I am loving this season but I do love contemporary routines, especially the ones by Travis Wall and Mandy Moore (I also wish Wade Robson still choreographed for it!). I think I watch for the choreography and the quality of the dancing. I do NOT watch this to see good ballroom dancing; if I did, I'd be sorely disappointed. When a couple gets a ballroom-ish numbers, what I care about is still the quality of movement, much less than ballroom technique. Because, clearly, you cannot pick up ballroom tehcnique of a dance in one week - it's impossible.

Those of you who are disappointed with this season: do you watch DWTS? Because, to me, that dancing is absolutely atrocious to watch. I refuse to watch that show because the quality sucks 95% of the time. And it's also sad to me to watch the once-good pros get worse and worse as they dance down to their "star students" season after season.

SYTYCD is where it's at for me for dance reality shows. Yeah, those kids can't do a closed position in VW, but what they can do is so mindblowingly beautiful, I don't even care...

 

[RickRS]

SYTYCD is where it's at for me for dance reality shows. Yeah, those kids can't do a closed position in VW, but what they can do is so mindblowingly beautiful, I don't even care...

:applause:

I'm in complete agreement.

 

[Casayoto]

I think up to this point, it has been their weakest season.(Tied with the Russell season, 6?) I'm not really sure what you're loving about it, but everyone has their own opinion.

 

[NonieS]

agreed with Casayoto... I have nothing against SYTYCD in general... I have enjoyed *almost* every second of the past seasons. I love the awesome choreography and watching the dancers develop. I have even enjoyed the ballroom performances...and in no way, shape, or form do I expect the non-ballroom people to learn quality technique.

That being said, I feel that this season has had a lot of generic dancers and performances and is just not exciting. I wish there were more diversity among the contestants so that I could actually tell them apart, and watch them do their own styles.. that way I can get a technically sound ballroom or hip hop routine, done by people who know what they are doing. Now I have a lot of contemporary people that I cannot keep straight doing routines that have mostly been unremarkable. Even the contemporary routines have not held up to the standard of seasons past.


and no, I do not watch DWTS... I get bored with that show as well.