Suggestions for Milonguero/Salon teachers in NYC/NJ area?

[Peaches]

What is your problem?

Someone asked a question specifically about Murat and Michelle. They acknowledged that it was a slight hijack of the original question. (Although not all that much, really.) What, exactly, is wrong with answering their query?

The OP asked about "Milonguero/Salon" teachers, so obviously the thread is "allowed" to encompass both. And Murat is perfectly capable of dancing either milonguero, or salon, or nuevo, or any combination of the three. I assume that Michelle is, as well, but I've never really gotten much instruction from her, nor have I danced with her.

So, I say again, what is your problem?

 

[tangogo-dancer]

Sorry again for the thread highjack
But I do believe as Peaches said that M&M are capable of dancing whatever style they want, including "milonguero" or "salon" (assuming that one is capable of giving a proper definition of those words - this reminds me of an interview of Gustavo Naveira ; he said, and I think he's right about that, that "milonguero" is not a style, but rather a feeling - not sure how to translate "onda" - but that's another thread highjack )

 

[Peaches]

Oh, don't worry about it. No reason to apologize. Threads get hijacked all the time, and M&M used to dance and teach in NYC at least part of the time.

Oh yeah...belated welcom.

 

[Mario7]

Gustavo Naveira ; he said, and I think he's right about that, that "milonguero" is not a style, but rather a feeling - not sure how to translate "onda"

My 'problem' is that soon Gustavo Naveira will also be called 'Milonguero'. Afterall, he has the 'feeling' you know..
Crikey! Can't we go for one thread honoring the real milonguero onda without morphing it into something else?
Y bienvenido!:kissme:

 

[AndaBien]

My 'problem' is that soon Gustavo Naveira will also be called 'Milonguero'. Afterall, he has the 'feeling' you know..
Crikey! Can't we go for one thread honoring the real milonguero onda without morphing it into something else?
Y bienvenido!

Mario, wouldn't "Aye, Chihuahua" be more authentic that "Crikey"?

 

[bordertangoman]

Duh excuse me, but what does Murat and Michelle Erdemsel have to do with Milonguero teaching? Does the word 'Salon' now co-opt everything? Or perhaps
I'm not supposed to make any distinctions? oh yes, that's it..we are now post-modern so anything goes. ugh

er if in BsAs no distinctin is made; the use of Milonguero to describe sharing weight is a western trait, I am informed.

I was dancing Milonguero at the weekend and was complimented on my salon dancing
so the distinctions you are talking about seem to non-Argentine.

To me salon style is open embrace with touching bodies when used outside BsAs

 

[Zoopsia59]

My 'problem' is that soon Gustavo Naveira will also be called 'Milonguero'. Afterall, he has the 'feeling' you know..
Crikey! Can't we go for one thread honoring the real milonguero onda without morphing it into something else?
Y bienvenido!:kissme:

The title of the thread is "milonguero/salon".

It is NOT a thread dedicated to Milonguero only.

It is a thread for someone looking for an instructor teaching SOCIAL (vs stage) styles in NYC. Murat and Michelle do that, therefore they are a legitimate part of the thread.

 

[Zoopsia59]

To me salon style is open embrace with touching bodies

uh.... what?

 

[Subliminal]

In my area, it seems milonguero style refers to CE with weight-sharing. And salon refers to OE or CE with no weight-sharing. Yes, milonguero has more than one meaning, but if someone says they are dancing milonguero "style" you can assume that's what they mean, or ask them directly. We don't need to make every thread about semantics if people give up their egos and make an effort to understand one another.

 

[dchester]

Duh excuse me, but what does Murat and Michelle Erdemsel have to do with Milonguero teaching? Does the word 'Salon' now co-opt everything? Or perhaps
I'm not supposed to make any distinctions? oh yes, that's it..we are now post-modern so anything goes. ugh

Mario, your usage of Salon may be different from mine. Salon is a very large category (or collection) of things, and everyone's definition is not identical.

For some people (like me), milonguero style is a subset of what is called salon, (and Villa Urquiza style would be a different subset of salon). Stage (or fantasia) and Nuevo, are generally not considered part of salon (but they are all considered to be Tango).

BTW, the thread title does have both milonguero AND salon in it.

 

[Mario7]

To me salon style is open embrace with touching bodies when used outside BsAs

There seems to be no limit to post-modern usurpatude

 

[Zoopsia59]

There seems to be no limit to post-modern usurpatude

In literature and art, "the Moderns" were the artists in Europe of the early 20th century (peaking between the wars). That would make everything in the last 90 years (including the time period of the Golden Age of Tango) "post-modern".

 

[Lilly_of_the_valley]

Murat and Michel Erdemsel are perfectly capable of dancing in close embrace (milonguero style, or however you call it). I have seen them dancing that way in milongas and performances. There are also a few videos on Youtube.

One may not be a big fun of their dancing or their teaching, but fair is fair.

 

[bordertangoman]

There seems to be no limit to post-modern usurpatude

I dont know what you're talking about; salon and milonguero are synonymous in BsAs.
If you think they mean something different then you are the post-modernist, but language is like that; its meaning changes with time and place.

My understanding of Post-Modern only extends to the field of Architecture
which was a reaction to Modernism