Syllabus or not?

[DanceGeek]

Continuous Reverse Wave - I have heard from some that this is not syllabus, which confuses me since it is simply the combination of the reverse wave, a back feather, and another reverse wave (second half).

What are your opinions?

 

[Chris Stratton]

Not. Steps 4-6 of the reverse wave are not a legal precede for a back feather

 

[Chris Stratton]

(or was it the other way around? at any rate, at least one the transitions is illegal)

 

[Terpsichorean Clod]

Is that the same as Extended Reverse Wave? That's gold on DVIDA (http://dancevision.com/files/dvida/DVIDA International Standard Gold Syllabus.pdf). I think it's also gold on IDTA.

 

[tangotime]

Is that the same as Extended Reverse Wave? That's gold on DVIDA (http://dancevision.com/files/dvida/DVIDA International Standard Gold Syllabus.pdf). I think it's also gold on IDTA.

Originally called ( and still is by many ) a Double Rev. Wave.. it is NOT in the "book " syllabus, but comes under the title of " Popular Variations "

 

[DanceGeek]

So many names for the same move It's great to hear everyone's input on it. I have seen the figure in the "popular variations" book, which is actually why I had asked about it. In general that book lists a number of move that when broken down are named as syllabus steps, but when they are creatively linked together, many consider them to no longer be syllabus.

Another good example of this would be in tango, there is a popular variation of a natural promenade turn followed by a twist turn. Both of these steps are low level syllabus steps, but because they are danced to a slightly different beat, some consider it to no longer be valid syllabus, when one precedes the other.

Clearly its a confusing topic for anyone to have the "official" word on. I wonder how these moves would be viewed at a collegiate competition for instance.

 

[tangotime]

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Clearly its a confusing topic for anyone to have the "official" word on. I wonder how these moves would be viewed at a collegiate competition for instance.

That may depend upon the judges discression.

 

[Chris Stratton]

Clearly its a confusing topic for anyone to have the "official" word on. I wonder how these moves would be viewed at a collegiate competition for instance.

I can recall doing it (badly) a few times way back before I knew it wasn't permitted.

But I think that at a competition where they were making an effort to watch for things, this would be noticed as illegal, especially if it were done well enough to be worth something.

I do feel the action is substantially different when strung together than when the back feather (in particular) is done in a syllabus context. And getting that action right is a key part of the value of the dancing - otherwise it's just steps.

 

[tangotime]

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I do feel the action is substantially different when strung together than when the back feather (in particular) is done in a syllabus context. And getting that action right is a key part of the value of the dancing - otherwise it's just steps.

The Rev. Wave was designed by Charles Thiebault .. it is said that in his small teaching space, the corner was difficult to negotiate ( there was a piano there ) and so he " bent " the amagl. round the corner.. apocryphal (?)... I think it makes sense

 

[Joe]

Clearly its a confusing topic for anyone to have the "official" word on. I wonder how these moves would be viewed at a collegiate competition for instance.

That would depend on which syllabus/syllabi the competition recognized.

 

[btfgus]

The Rev. Wave was designed by Charles Thiebault .. it is said that in his small teaching space, the corner was difficult to negotiate ( there was a piano there ) and so he " bent " the amagl. round the corner.. apocryphal (?)... I think it makes sense

Thanks for this insight into the creation of this step.

 

[Another Elizabeth]

That would depend on which syllabus/syllabi the competition recognized.

For a while, "Popular Variations" were explicitly permitted at MIT - I don't know if they still are.

 

[amiko]

I want a reverse wave in my foxtrot routine ~pouts~

 

[waltzguy]

DP and I did it extensively (no pun intended) at my last comp, and it didn't bother the judges nor the invigliator.

 

[and123]

Depends on the comp, the rules, and the invigilator. Danced it at several comps and so far have been busted ~50% of the time. Not gonna risk it unless we see others doing it first and not getting slapped for it.