Tango Music

[dchester]

I think you misspelled "bad". It's spelled b-a-d, not s-l-o-t nor s-p-o-t.

 

[opendoor]

grrrr

 

[dancelover2012]

Thanks for all and special UKDancer with your very clear post. The term "pulse", "beat" and "tempo" in the posts make me confused. SO far I know beat and tempo have relation: if tempo changes beat must changes and reversely. What is "pulse"?

 

[flyingwind66]

This may be sub-style-dependent: tango de salón is travelling along the line of dance whilst neotango should be danced slotted or on the spot.
Would like to take a look at it!

well not necessarily on the spot but it definitely felt like there were more steps where you are within a box of space... like ochos for example. I feel like if I tried ochos while everyone was doing BR tango, I'd get bowled over.

On the other note, I choreographed for fun ... I never taped or really performed for anyone... sorry lol

We got no rules, only etiquette

I love your diagram ;D

 

[UKDancer]

Thanks for all and special UKDancer with your very clear post. The term "pulse", "beat" and "tempo" in the posts make me confused. So far I know beat and tempo have relation: if tempo changes beat must changes and reversely. What is "pulse"?

Pulse = beat (like a heart). Tempo is just the rate at which the music's heart beats, usually expressed in beats per minute (or sometimes bars per minute - both, unhelpfully, abbreviated to bpm). The other one worth clarifying is rhythm: which can be defined as the way in which beats are grouped together with regular accents to give the basic shape to the music (eg tango felt in 4s, vals in 3s etc.).

 

[UKDancer]

... I feel like if I tried ochos while everyone was doing BR tango, I'd get bowled over.

Certainly BR tango tends to keep moving around the line of dance at a pretty fast pace. If you are familiar with both, dance a BR tango Outside Swivel and tell me that the follower hasn't just danced an Ocho, though. It's just that we don't hang about, and have moved straight off, again.

 

[opendoor]

..whilst neotango should be danced slotted or on the spot

..not necessarily on the spot but it definitely felt like there were more steps where you are within a box of space... like ochos for example

Only at the beginning ochos may interrupt the constant flow ahead, when the leader is more experienced ochos do not stand out any more.

 

[opendoor]

Certainly BR tango tends to keep moving around the line of dance at a pretty fast pace...

We´ve got a milonga at which every now and then some BR-tango couples appear. But they do not stick to the LOD, nor in a faster pace. They always try to stir the crowd up with their unpredictable zick-zack maneuvers. It feels like escaping bumper cars. In this respect BR-tango does not follow the BR-etiquette, it´s much more similar to argentine tango de escenario.

 

[UKDancer]

We´ve got a milonga at which every now and then some BR-tango couples appear. But they do not stick to the LOD, nor in a faster pace. They always try to stir the crowd up with their unpredictable zick-zack maneuvers. It feels like escaping bumper cars. In this respect BR-tango does not follow the BR-etiquette, it´s much more similar to argentine tango de escenario.

To be honest, that just sounds like bad dancing. Nearly all BR tango figures are progressive, and facilitate movement around the LOD. Of course, you can mess up just about anything.

 

[Gssh]

This is a ballroom chart that aims at allowing competition style sides for the advanced dancers, while also offering space for people dancing a different dance to the same music in the middle, no?
In most milongas the outermost lane is recommended for beginners as navigation is easier if there is nobody on the closed side of the couple, and all lanes should move with roughly the same speed (if there are faster ones they will be usually towards the middle), there are no slot or spot dancers, just more tracks, and the spots to do stationary figures are either when the flow of the dancefloor slows down because the music slows down, or in the corners.

Gssh

 

[Subliminal]

To be honest, that just sounds like bad dancing. Nearly all BR tango figures are progressive, and facilitate movement around the LOD. Of course, you can mess up just about anything.

I agree. A good BR dancer should have no problem navigating...

...however... You know stereotypes sometimes exist for a reason, right? The only people I have seen dancing BR tango at my local milongas have been those that are showing off their big sweeping steps, making traffic unpredictable and dangerous...

Good BR dancers... Or should we just say good dancers in general? Would probably spend time observing the floor and trying to fit in, so probably aren't as noticeable.

 

[UKDancer]

The only people I have seen dancing BR tango at my local milongas have been those that are showing off their big sweeping steps, making traffic unpredictable and dangerous...

I can't imagine why anyone would want to dance BR tango at a Milonga, and it would be unacceptable at one of mine: I'd quietly ask them to stop. It works both ways, and I wouldn't welcome AT dancers on the floor at any function of mine while BR tango was being danced. They're just too different in their manner of movement ever to be able to coexist.

 

[opendoor]

I can't imagine why anyone would want to dance BR tango at a Milonga..

Never asked these guys, sorry. But in general I would appreciate if there still was a tiny overlap (but without mission or headhunting).

 

[opendoor]

...In most milongas the outermost lane is recommended for beginners..

I never saw this. In my world only advanced dancers dance along the tables and knees. Beginners seek the center, and of course all those too, that want to dance sweeping gestures.

 

[AndaBien]

I never saw this. In my world only advanced dancers dance along the tables and knees. Beginners seek the center, and of course all those too, that want to dance sweeping gestures.

Yes, this is more or less my observation, too.

I wouldn't want to be considered a beginner, just because I dance in the outside lane. It would have to be for other reasons.