The Mysterious Pachanga...

What IS the pachanga??? It must be the best kept secret on our team, as all of the advanced members claim to know it but refuse to even talk about it with the newcomers, saying that we "aren't ready it" :wink: Its the one dance that was talked about in Dirty Dancing but we never saw; and googling the word "pachanga" comes up with next to nothing. Is the pachanga the new "forbidden dance"?! :x Someone please enlighten me!
 
I have been wondering the same thing. Every decription I read is too vague to help me. (I'm not very good at going from verbal descriptions to imagining a dance though.)

I think we are about 25-30 years late for the pachanga craze.
 
ballroomboilergirl said:
What IS the pachanga???

I am dyiing to know it myself !!!!

And also, what is descarga and boogaloo :?: Or, rather ( I know how they sound), how to dance pachanga, descarga and boogaloo? is it acceptable to do salsa steps or connaisseurs will be offended (much like some people do, when they see others dancing salsa to cumbia music). :?: :?: :?:
 
If it's even half as fun to do as it is to say, it must be fun: PACHANGA!

There is a little glossary of Afro-Carribbean Music Terms in back of the Descarga.com catalog (the 98/99 one anyway--I haven't bought the newest one). They simply define "descarga" as "a jam session, as well as an improvised tune."

For a while I thought that "boogaloo" was strictly a Latino term, but it turns out that African-Americans have been using it for years too, and I think their use came before Latinos picked up on it. It basically just means R&B. From what I've heard from Latino sources, there is no such thing as a "boogaloo" basic step. (Maybe we need a World Boogaloo Foundation?) I don't know if there is particularly style of dancing that African-Americans refer to as "boogaloo."
 
Hey, BBG. Great topic, I've wondered that for years and just assumed it was a American dance that I had no idea about.

According to one site, Pachanga music is "a hybrid rhythm conceived of elements of both the Merengue and the Conga (Merenconga), which began its song hits in Colombia, Cuba in 1959.

Originally the Pachanga only had seven variations but when mixed with the Cha-Cha (Pachanga-cha) aquired hundreds more. The Pachanga dance replaced the Cha-Cha dance in popularity in the early 1960's."


Another site describes the Pachanga as A rhythm style created by Eduardo Davison in Santiago, the capitol of the Oriente province of Cuba.

As a dancer, neither explanation answers the question for me, but hey, we're a step closer to knowing what the elusive Pachanga is! :)
 
I remember reading somewhere that boogaloo is music derived from the Cuban son montuno and African blues/jazz.
 
Sagitta, I realize that I forgot to say that in a Latin musical context, boogaloo is music that is (usually anyway) a mix of R&B with Afro-Latin elements. But apparently it also has been used by African-Americans to refer to R&B, without any added Afro-Latin elements.
 
Pachange, Boogaloo and Descarga

Boy, are you guys testing me.

Alright. Before we tackle the pachanga, boogaloo and descarga, there are a few things you should bear in mind:

i. You have asked the equivalent of "what is salsa?" This is an explanation only as I understand it, so please expect there to be significant differences of opinion.

ii. a music style is different from a music type:

A style refers to the instrumentation of a band. A conjunto style/format contains brass esp. trumpet and trombones, and you can get small conjuntos as well as large ones. Compare this with a charanga format that tends to contain flutes and violins instead (but not exclusively e.g. Africando). A more in-depth explanation can be found in "Salsa Guidebook for Piano and Ensemble" by Rebeca Mauleon.

A type refers to the result after every instrument layer is assembled i.e. chachacha, songo, mambo, son montuno

iii. not every music type has a specific dance form associated with it. Many types were extremely transient in nature, and their associated dances were not codified (and therefore not frozen for posterity). However, in some cases, dance movements can be approximated /"reverse-engineered" if you have a knowledge of the context of the period.

iv. a vamp is a repeated pattern of chords (usually between 2-5), with variations. A montuno (piano), or guajeo (violin, guitar family) are examples.


Pachanga
Heavily associated with New York - many places claim to have given birth to it, but most of the recording studios and distribution of music in the 60s were in NYC. The chachacha, mainly interpreted by charanga bands in the 50s, gave way to rock 'n' roll in the 60s (incidentally Fania and its distinctive sound of salsa was born in the 60s). The chachacha made a short-lived resurgence in the form of the Pachanga in the 60s but failed to take hold - hence the pachanga's association with charanga bands. Some people say it's a combination of the words Pacheco (Fania co-founder and flautist) and charanga.

Rhythmically, the congas play a pattern called "a caballo" instead of tumbao moderno. It is also slightly more up-tempo. And as a dance? Hardly any concrete evidence exists. From what I understand of the era, I would personally interpret it as a loose "non-ballroom" mambo, less high on the toes but still light on the feet, with more groove and swing (remember that the Boogaloo era was starting at this time).

I try to nail the accents on the conga in different ways because of the different tones: dry "slaps" on 1 and 3, and low round tone on 4 (excluding clave direction). From a ballroom background, I'd think of it as a cross between a mambo and a deep, groovy swing. On 1 or 2 depending on the alignment of brass with the percussion.

Fruko has some cheeky current-ish pachangas. Fania has some earlier ones.


Boogaloo
Possibly an attempt by Latin music to recapture lost ground from rock 'n' roll, also in the 60s, also mainly in NYC. Simplistically, its salsa and soul. Lyrics could be found in English, vibraphones in the melody, heavy backbeats (2 and 4) sometimes emphasised by hand claps.

Danced light, with a centre of gravity higher from the floor. Hip action is more lateral, swivelling around the vertical axis of the spine because of poorer leverage from the floor. This is closer in mode to inland Colombian styles (another dangerous generalisation). I tend to use rhythmic counterpoint, accenting beats 1 and 3 as the "call (pregon)" and letting the hand-claps in the music "respond (coro)" on 2 and 4.

Some artists (Fania): Joe Cuba, Joe Bataan. Also Sonora Carruseles, La Misma Gente.


Descarga
Lit. "Unload". A word that describes a passage of improvisation by musicians. A solid music/rhythmic framework is established with instrument vamps over percussion. (Usually) single instruments improvise freely and in turn over the course of a descarga. It can form part of, or be the length of a whole song.

You'd probably encounter it in the form of mambo, son, salsa.

Historically, dancers would improvise most at this stage, and the musician-dancer interaction would be at its peak. This phenomenon is diminishing because of a decline in live music. I personally think it's a great skill to have.

Cachao and his descarga sessions are highly recommended listening for students of AfroCuban music. My favourite is "Descarga de la Luz" by Orquesta de la Luz (Please don't shoot me, I'm only the bass player).

Hope this helps,
Loo
 
I was wondering how many margarita's you all can drink before you fall flat on your derriere . . . not from dancing, but from trying to figure this stuff out???

Most of those dances are new to me, but I do read the topics with a questioning, yet dizzy mind from all the "new" terminology.

WOW! Very informative . . . to say the least . . .
 
Re: Pachange, Boogaloo and Descarga

looyenyeo

I absolutely love your posts :kissme:

That's exactly the kind of information I was looking for :!: :!: :!:
and now I do not even have to surf the web and read books :D (well, I will have to, but later, when I have more specific questions)
 
Isn't it great to have our own DF expert on latin music theory :!: :!: :!:

I don't know if anybody's interested, but I found "Heavy salsa" CD by Sonora Carruseles very helpful - inside the cover they specify what type of music (I hope I got that right, looyenyeo, type not style) each song is. In addition to salsa they have descargas, pachangas, cumbias, boogaloos.
For example I had no idea (though it does sound different from salsa) that the famous "Michaela" they perform is boogaloo !
 
Vey, you got the idea of "style" and "type" right on. I think most music people tend to be easy-going about it, so I don't mean to come across as pedantic.

And you're right. Original CD liner notes often yield important information (although the accuracy is only as good as the writer). It's nice to see that Sonora Carruseles finally managed to penetrate the US. That album was originally titled "Al son de los cueros" and had a tough time getting in (about two years, but that's another story).

To recap: If you take chachacha music, replace the tumbao moderno pattern on the congas with "a caballo", speed it up a bit, you get a pachanga... more or less.

"a caballo" or "by horse" is so named because it sounds like the clip-clop of a horse's hooves.

As for dancing it, just get a feel for the context of the times in the mid-late 1960s, and what was around in the latin dance scene in NYC and you'd have a pretty good idea.

If there are any terms or concepts that you feel I haven't clarified properly, please let me know and I'll do my best.

Happy Pachanga-ing

Regards,
Loo
 

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