USDC experiences?

chachacha

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For those who have been to USDC, what was the experience like, competition, atmosphere, etc? How many competitions did you do before going?

I would love to go, but I fear it would be an unenjoyable cut throat experience, especially as a guy leader. I’d be going primarily for the gentleman’s title as I know the unisex would be very difficult to make a final in, let alone win. Would I be wasting my time going next year if I’ve only done like 7 comps overall with my instructor (and maybe another one or two next year before we’d go).

I don’t have a ton of money to compete, so getting lots of comps in before is not feasible.
 
I’ve been to USDC as an amateur, a pro-am competitor, and a spectator. These can be combined in various ways, of course.

By far the best experience was as a spectator. All of the best couples in the world are there, but not all the mediocre couples. So the viewing experience was very fun.

I don’t know what it’s like now, but when I competed, the men’s pro-am was a small semifinal, so making the final wasn’t that big a deal if you and your instructor were good. To win, you might have to engage in the tricks that the lady pro-ams do - things like hiring a former or current world or Blackpool professional champion to dance with rather than dancing with your regular instructor, for instance.

The question is not so much how many pro-am competitions you’ve done, but how well you’ve done in them. You should be winning all the gent’s events regularly if you want a chance of winning at USDC.
 
If you want to compete at a higher level, you have to start competing at a higher level. It's all about expectations. If you go in, thinking you can win, you may be quite overwhelmed. If you go for the experience and excitement, you may do better than you think. It can be intimidating, but you have to do the mental gymnastics of believing you belong...and then you will! I totally disagree with dumping your teacher for a higher level pro. You will dance better with someone you feel comfortable with and have a long term partnership with. And it will be more rewarding also. It also depends on your level and who else shows up etc etc.
 
If you want to compete at a higher level, you have to start competing at a higher level. It's all about expectations. If you go in, thinking you can win, you may be quite overwhelmed. If you go for the experience and excitement, you may do better than you think. It can be intimidating, but you have to do the mental gymnastics of believing you belong...and then you will!
I wouldn’t disagree, though for the gents, I’d say it’s more about skills than expectations. Also, even if you’re targeting a gent’s category at USDC, competing in unisex categories in local or regional competitions can be useful experience. Try to beat all the other gents and if you beat any ladies, that’s gravy.
I totally disagree with dumping your teacher for a higher level pro. You will dance better with someone you feel comfortable with and have a long term partnership with.
This may be less true of male students than female students. The year I competed, the gentleman winner was dancing with Lynn Marriner, who was going to win Blackpool with Schiavo the next year. The rest of the lady pros had mostly been in the US pro final but not come close to the Blackpool finals.

That said, the lady’s competition was also won by a lady who had hired the best pro she could afford - I think he’d been a Blackpool semi finalist - while the second place lady was dancing with her regular NY pro, who I believe had also not come close to the Blackpool finals, and had not made the US finals either. Based on tryouts during that time period, I think the second place lady was a better dancer, but the first place lady had a better idea of what it took to win.
 
I’ve been to USDC as an amateur, a pro-am competitor, and a spectator. These can be combined in various ways, of course.

By far the best experience was as a spectator. All of the best couples in the world are there, but not all the mediocre couples. So the viewing experience was very fun.

I don’t know what it’s like now, but when I competed, the men’s pro-am was a small semifinal, so making the final wasn’t that big a deal if you and your instructor were good. To win, you might have to engage in the tricks that the lady pro-ams do - things like hiring a former or current world or Blackpool professional champion to dance with rather than dancing with your regular instructor, for instance.

The question is not so much how many pro-am competitions you’ve done, but how well you’ve done in them. You should be winning all the gent’s events regularly if you want a chance of winning at USDC.
That’s just it, there are hardly any gents competing in A where I go, and even in programs I see of other comps where you’d think they’d be more.

Maybe Ohio Star or Emerald would be better to try out first to test the waters so so speak.
 
Having been a regular competitor at USDC with plenty of success, I can speak to more recent years. Personally my first USDC was my 4th competition, very early on in my pro-am experience, I went in with zero expectations, and made a big final or two, a podium placement, and walked away over the moon. If you go in wanting a title, prepare to be disappointed, simple statistics alone, only one person can win per event, afterall. That being said, it is a must do competition for any serious pro-am dancer in the US at least once. When you bite the bullet to go is up to you. My opinion is: the earlier, the better. You'll experience the best of Pro-Am dancing in the country, and that alone will set the tone for the standard of quality you desire for yourself.

The Leaders Only categories will vary in size depending on style and level, but I've had a semifinal or two of only leaders, which is really a great experience. Leaders Only categories in the older age categories regularly have semifinals, even at regional comps, at least the ones that host one of the Leaders Only Tours. If you are there at USDC, you might as well enter the equivalent all gender multi-dances, you never know where you may land, and it is a useful experience to share the floor with professional leader's, regardless of who they are partnering. Nationals is always going to be competitive, everyone there is aiming to be at their absolute best, perceiving it as cutthroat is up to you. There are always plenty of friendly people on and off the floor to make it less daunting. Your fellow gentlemen competitors aren't a shy group, we are easy to talk to, and you'll probably find it nearly impossible to be on deck without some sort of chit chat to break the tension before walking on the floor.

As to Warren's suggestion of finding a top pro.....
All of my competitive USDC years were with teachers that were Rising Star level professionals, but good dancers, and good partners. We worked consistently, and developed a connected, well partnered product. Did I dance with world class champions, not necessarily, but it didn't prevent me from making multiple podium placements from quarters and semis, and winning a couple Gent's titles as well. Good teachers, good dancing and quality partnering/mechanics/musicianship can come from anywhere (think Ratatouille wisdom). No one on here can tell you where you are likely to place without seeing you dance, and even then, it doesn't matter. Any major comp will be subject to great highs, or great lows and frankly, you never know what you'll get and how you will handle it until you experience it. But don't break something that isn't necessarily broken just to find an expensive top champion pro who still will not guarantee you any placement. That is not a trick that works. Also there have been plenty of Pro-Am champions in the past years that dance with pros that don't have major Open Finalist careers results.

If you want basically a guaranteed leader's only event with tons of competition, dance American Smooth at Beach Bash's Supreme Leader event. All ages and levels, and they've had at least a Quarterfinal ever year since the first time they offered it. I've done it twice and have had an absolute blast both times. Also the comp is insanely goofy fun all week for any style, will never feel cutthroat.
 
I've been a spectator several times and competed once. And had a great time all of it.
It helped that when we competed we went to Disneyland after hahahahah.

I loved spectating it because you get to see the best dancing.
As a competitor, I thought it was very organized, and there were giant floors. The competition in pro am smooth was definitely cut-throat though.

Hotel wise I've had not great experiences. The year I competed I kept getting locked out by their automated doors and had to go to the front desk multiple times.
One time I spectated my room smelled musty and I requested a change.

I'm skipping this year as I'm prioritizing a WCS event.
 
That’s just it, there are hardly any gents competing in A where I go, and even in programs I see of other comps where you’d think they’d be more.
Are you age restricted to A? Don’t be afraid of higher age categories if you are eligible.

Depending on where you live, I’d strongly recommend local or regional competitions. You can always get as much competition as you want by entering the unisex (mixed sex) events. If you have your heart set on winning, enter a gent’s event and be happy when it’s uncontested.
Maybe Ohio Star or Emerald would be better to try out first to test the waters so so speak.
If you live in Ohio or California, sure.

Also, have you considered an amateur partner? While these aren’t easy to get, they are easier for men than for women. Actually, scratch that - beginner women are easy to find for experienced men. It’s the more experienced women who develop unreasonable expectations.
 
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